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Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« on: 25 May 2014, 12:16:21 »

I put a new Conti cambelt kit, new water pump and set the cambelt tension correctly.

If you have a look in the photo's the belt is sitting too far back on the pulleys and is touching the arrow on the timing belt tensioner as well. I have rotated the engine several times but still the belt sits too far back.

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Any advice or suggestions would be welcome.

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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #1 on: 25 May 2014, 13:23:36 »

Does yours have the mark for the water pump? I found big variation depending on water pump position. The lug on the pump should match the edge of the engine block
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #2 on: 25 May 2014, 13:58:55 »

Does yours have the mark for the water pump? I found big variation depending on water pump position. The lug on the pump should match the edge of the engine block

Tunnie this is the water pump I got with a lug, http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/details/VAUXHALL/OMEGA/2.2/2003/__/70/QCP3059/water-pump/

I'm wondering if I should start the engine and see if the belt centres. What do you think?

The water pump as you say will alter the belt tension, but will the belt tension effect the correct centring of the belt?

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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #3 on: 25 May 2014, 14:01:19 »

Same one I got :)

Does the lug match up with the mark in the block? Mine did not appear to have a mark in the block. It should point to one of the bolts securing the alternator. Or there abouts.
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #4 on: 25 May 2014, 14:06:08 »

Same one I got :)

Does the lug match up with the mark in the block? Mine did not appear to have a mark in the block. It should point to one of the bolts securing the alternator. Or there abouts.

There is an indent in the cover between the alternator and the pump. I alighned it with that.  :y

I altered the post above. What do you think?
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #5 on: 25 May 2014, 14:08:33 »

If belt is too loose/tight, can change things.

Have you checked the lower timing mark? On the crank pully? You need a mirror to see it  :y
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #6 on: 25 May 2014, 14:17:43 »


Timing marks are all spot on.  :y

What I did notice was, when I set the tension correct with the spark plus in after taking the spark plugs out it changed the tension setting. Maybe because there is less tension on the belt with out the compression when the plugs are in.

Should the belt tension be set with plugs in or out?
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #7 on: 25 May 2014, 14:22:10 »

I've always done them with plugs in  :-\
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #8 on: 25 May 2014, 14:24:38 »

I done mine with the plugs in as well. I will leave the tension set as it is then.  :y
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #9 on: 25 May 2014, 14:26:35 »

Tonnie forgot to ask. Is it safe for the electrics if I start the engine without the Aux belt on?
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #10 on: 25 May 2014, 14:28:07 »

Looking at the photos again, I would hope it would sort it self out like an aux belt which is just slipped on.

I'd let someone else confirm though  :y

Yes you can run without aux belt on, not for long though, few seconds as no battery charge ect. Always a good test to seperate for aux belt to cam belt driven things  :y
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #11 on: 25 May 2014, 14:41:21 »

Everything is correct so I might just start here up and see. Hopefully someone can confirm it before I do.

Do you know the torque stting for the plugs?

I'll let you know.
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #12 on: 25 May 2014, 14:44:28 »

Have you tried physically moving the belt to it`s correct position/s Andy
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« Reply #13 on: 25 May 2014, 14:47:06 »

Not yet.
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Re: Cambelt alignment wrong. Help needed please
« Reply #14 on: 25 May 2014, 14:49:20 »

Looking at the pic, it seems you`ve not got the belt centralised on cam sprockets
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