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« Reply #15 on: 08 June 2014, 20:20:40 »

Yup :y based on parts only, as it assumes diy labour is free...

Not bad then  :) , what size tank would this price give  :-\
Seen some installs with a 100litre tank. But that completely  covers the through space behind the back seats and can weigh more when full lowering rear ride height slightly.

Do of you tow? Do you have self levelling? Do you need any element of the through space? Do you need a the full boot area?

Anything from a 100ltr cylinder accross the back seats to a donut tank in the spare wheel well is possible, depending on your needs.

I will want some boot space and i was thinking of fitting a tow bar  :(
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« Reply #16 on: 09 June 2014, 21:23:42 »

Go for the largest tank that's feesible for you. It seems that filling is inefficient, so I always try to aim to fill when nearly empty to get max mpg, rather than short fill because I've seen somewhere cheap.

No idea why short filling kills economy, but its the same on both mine...
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« Reply #17 on: 11 June 2014, 11:55:47 »

Who is the best source for kits these days? Telio stopped doing them ages ago, last time I looked eBay was the cheapest. I looked at some other companies but their kits were far more than eBay.

Thing with Telio was he always supplied the little extra odds and sods you need, as I think I need a V6 kit  :-X
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« Reply #18 on: 11 June 2014, 11:59:31 »

Who is the best source for kits these days? Telio stopped doing them ages ago, last time I looked eBay was the cheapest. I looked at some other companies but their kits were far more than eBay.

Thing with Telio was he always supplied the little extra odds and sods you need, as I think I need a V6 kit  :-X
Sadly, we lost the decent stash of the odds and ends left over from previous installs, and they were not insured  :'(
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« Reply #19 on: 11 June 2014, 12:11:16 »

Who is the best source for kits these days? Telio stopped doing them ages ago, last time I looked eBay was the cheapest. I looked at some other companies but their kits were far more than eBay.

Thing with Telio was he always supplied the little extra odds and sods you need, as I think I need a V6 kit  :-X
Sadly, we lost the decent stash of the odds and ends left over from previous installs, and they were not insured  :'(

Would have been an issue explaining each little bit from that left overs too. Think I gave you some of my spares too  :'(
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« Reply #20 on: 11 June 2014, 12:18:31 »

So is fleBay the best bet?  :-\

Anyone recommend any others?
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« Reply #22 on: 11 June 2014, 15:12:34 »

I'm looking at replacing TBE's injectors to those ones that DrGixer has, as I'm getting grumpy running until warmed up now, which I believe he suffered.

My setup is Stag Plus, KME Gold, Motogas injectors (possibly AC ones?), 80l 4 hole cylinder.
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« Reply #23 on: 11 June 2014, 15:49:29 »

I'm looking at replacing TBE's injectors to those ones that DrGixer has, as I'm getting grumpy running until warmed up now, which I believe he suffered.

My setup is Stag Plus, KME Gold, Motogas injectors (possibly AC ones?), 80l 4 hole cylinder.

What injectors does Gixer have?
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« Reply #24 on: 11 June 2014, 18:18:38 »

So quick sums, ~£400 on front end kit + ~£500 for rear end kit? Can't find the notes I made when I rang tinley about a year ago about rear end kit, but was around £400-£450.

Add in certification, odds and sods, fuel in runs up and down, bribing Mr Wood for injector tapping, curry payments to little fatty, I cannot see me getting change out of £1k.  :'(

That's a lot to spend, having just done further quick sums, I reckon i'd save around 6p a mile.

Split that by around 200 working days I'd use the car ~10k miles that's only £600 saved. Looking at 2 years before I'm back in profit.

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« Reply #25 on: 11 June 2014, 18:37:36 »

I paid £580 for TBE's kit, and around £100 for certification, if that helps?  The Silver Bullet was a shade cheaper, as that has a multivalve.

Remember, Tinley are about the most expensive out there.
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« Reply #26 on: 11 June 2014, 18:44:11 »

I paid £580 for TBE's kit, and around £100 for certification, if that helps?  The Silver Bullet was a shade cheaper, as that has a multivalve.

Remember, Tinley are about the most expensive out there.

That was a few years ago now though. Plus Telio was about the best and cheapest supplier going, who gave everything in the kit.

Soo ~£700 for yours, I think around ~£900 for mine, is about right? Given time since, change in suppliers?

Even £750 cost will take more than a year  :(

As I reckon 25mpg at £0.23 mile. (assuming 128.9 litre)

LPG I reckon 19mpg £0.17 mile (assuming 71p litre)

So only 6p....

Take into account 30 days holiday + days sick + working from home + bike runs, I'm looking at 200 runs to work a year, around 10k miles. So £600 saved.

It won't be used much for personal miles, as that would be the Estate.  :-\
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« Reply #27 on: 11 June 2014, 18:48:28 »

As we all know, fuel savings are approx. 1/3rd

If you don't need the space of day trips out, why wouldn't you take the 3.2 (or 2.2)?
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« Reply #28 on: 11 June 2014, 18:54:56 »

As we all know, fuel savings are approx. 1/3rd

If you don't need the space of day trips out, why wouldn't you take the 3.2 (or 2.2)?

Reason this has all kicked off, is the pram won't fit in the boot of the 2.2 as some idiot put a larger 90L tank in there.  ::)

So, either put a smaller tank in. Or call it time on the 2.2 and gas the 3.2, with 80L setup where pram (after testing yours) should fit.

At CostCo the pram and cot bit thing went in the 3.2, but sod all room for anything else. Squeezed shopping in, but fek all room for anything else really. Given crap stuff we haul around.

When I gassed the 2.2, I was doing almost 30k a year, now, it's more like 10k tops. So payback time is an issue now.

So the Estate is needed, I'll take that on and do a little TLC on it.

But problem is, keep 2.2 or gas 3.2  :-\

That said I don't really want to spend £800 on gass'ing it. At the end of the day, it's going to be worse on fuel than my 2.2 and it's going to take an age to pay back.
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« Reply #29 on: 11 June 2014, 18:56:27 »

So it's looking like keep the 2.2, sell the 3.2, and just deal without ability to carry pram until that day comes. Thinking about it, I've not tried taking prams wheels off.
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