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Andyv6

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Is the gearbox dead ?
« on: 08 June 2014, 18:35:38 »

Had a call from my old man saying he thinks his autobox may have died he said it was thudding into gear and sometimes a delay going into gear warning on the dash and a burning smell, had a look when I popped home 2 fault codes one was to do with temp voltage to high and the other I think was speed signal iirc (forgot to note them down) but codes erased ok jacked it up pulled the level plug out (without car running) v slight dribble of oil, so guessing it was low and oil smells burnt and looks a bit odd kinda looks like rusty oil imagine you have a seized padlock and been spraying wd40 at it then as it frees off you get a rusty looking oil weeping out of it. Now do you guys think with a oil and filter change and some flushing with new oil the box may live again ? As up to yet only found 1 af35 box on eBay, oh cars a 98 elite 3.0l and getting on for 230k on the clock. Thanks in advance Andy
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #1 on: 08 June 2014, 18:43:44 »

Got to be worth a try draining the current remaining fluid out and refilling with fresh. Obviously you'll have to drop the sumps so a good inspection of the filter might tell you the state of the box.

Personally I wouldn't put expensive Dex III in as something like Fuchs Titan 4000 isn't cheap if you subsequently find that the box is toast you'll have wasted a lot of money...
 
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #2 on: 08 June 2014, 18:50:47 »

Level must be checked car level/engine running :y anything else is just guessing, but a fluid/filter change cannot hurt, and whilst the sumps are off, you can check for debris :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #3 on: 08 June 2014, 19:27:03 »

Earlier this year, VX were doing Semi-skimmed Dex111 for £42.95 for 20L on TC. It may still be avlbl. :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #4 on: 08 June 2014, 19:29:50 »

Earlier this year, VX were doing Semi-skimmed Dex111 for £42.95 for 20L on TC. It may still be avlbl. :y
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blimey that's a good price,is that inc vat..

pas doesn't like dexIII.
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #5 on: 08 June 2014, 20:55:09 »

Will drop the sumps off some point next week and see how it looks in there, cheers for the heads up on the oil will give vxl a shout in the morning  :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #6 on: 08 June 2014, 21:12:11 »

No not dead. No mention of slipping. I reckon changing for new Dex 3 will sort it.

Vx probably won't stock Dex 3 and try to sell you the latest more expensive Dex oil.

Stick to Dex 3 but try to avoid that poxy coma shite IMO. Any Dex 3 will do in theory although Fuchs Titan dex3 is often used here if available to you.


Probably due on mine by now, going by the 60k interval i prefer.

Filter can be washed out btw.
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #7 on: 08 June 2014, 21:53:58 »

No not dead. No mention of slipping. I reckon changing for new Dex 3 will sort it.

Vx probably won't stock Dex 3 and try to sell you the latest more expensive Dex oil.

Stick to Dex 3 but try to avoid that poxy coma shite IMO. Any Dex 3 will do in theory although Fuchs Titan dex3 is often used here if available to you.


Probably due on mine by now, going by the 60k interval i prefer.

Filter can be washed out btw.
Agree with you there  :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #8 on: 08 June 2014, 22:36:38 »

Earlier this year, VX were doing Semi-skimmed Dex111 for £42.95 for 20L on TC. It may still be avlbl. :y
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blimey that's a good price,is that inc vat..

pas doesn't like dexIII.

No
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #9 on: 08 June 2014, 22:38:35 »

No not dead. No mention of slipping. I reckon changing for new Dex 3 will sort it.

Vx probably won't stock Dex 3 and try to sell you the latest more expensive Dex oil.

Stick to Dex 3 but try to avoid that poxy coma shite IMO. Any Dex 3 will do in theory although Fuchs Titan dex3 is often used here if available to you.


Probably due on mine by now, going by the 60k interval i prefer.

Filter can be washed out btw.

They did earlier, I have the remains of  a 20L can in the garage. :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #10 on: 08 June 2014, 22:39:17 »

No not dead. No mention of slipping. I reckon changing for new Dex 3 will sort it.

Vx probably won't stock Dex 3 and try to sell you the latest more expensive Dex oil.

Stick to Dex 3 but try to avoid that poxy coma shite IMO. Any Dex 3 will do in theory although Fuchs Titan dex3 is often used here if available to you.


Probably due on mine by now, going by the 60k interval i prefer.

Filter can be washed out btw.

They did earlier, I have the remains of  a 20L can in the garage. :y

Consider yourself lucky Mr Shak. :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #11 on: 09 June 2014, 12:48:05 »

If nothing came out with the engine stopped then it's seriously low on fluid.  :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #12 on: 14 June 2014, 13:43:46 »

Well I got round to pulling the sumps off and it don't look good small chunks of friction material in the front sump and larger pieces in the bigger sump looked up in the box above the valve body and can see more bits hanging from the centre of the box,  :'( anyone got any idea of the cost to get repaired or would it be Easier to get a 2nd hand box.
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #13 on: 14 June 2014, 13:49:45 »

Well I got round to pulling the sumps off and it don't look good small chunks of friction material in the front sump and larger pieces in the bigger sump looked up in the box above the valve body and can see more bits hanging from the centre of the box,  :'( anyone got any idea of the cost to get repaired or would it be Easier to get a 2nd hand box.

That's what I would do. :y
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Re: Is the gearbox dead ?
« Reply #14 on: 14 June 2014, 13:56:13 »

Used Ar35 box on here. £100 perhaps?
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