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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #15 on: 03 July 2014, 16:12:26 »

From memory, it was circa 170 notes for the parts (oil, filter, antifreeze, cooler pipe seals, coolant bridge dowty washers, cooler plate sealant), a tenner for fuel and around 40 for the work (three hours ish)
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #16 on: 03 July 2014, 16:19:32 »

Just wondering why don't you just plug it? Two bolts, 10" of hose and two clips would be a lot cheaper and 100% warranty of not leaking again  :y 
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #17 on: 03 July 2014, 16:24:24 »

That is Top Doller Garage money, why didn't you take Tunnies advice and look into one of the Mobile Techs on here to quote and do the work, probably too late to pull out it now.   :(

Just make sure that when you pick the Car up, that the Coolant is crystal clear with no muck in it, a clear Red Colour or worst case Blue, Car runs at normal temperatures and the heater work, and theres no coolant loss, as the Coolant flushing does take some effort to clean. 

Oil Cooler failure, don't let them tell you it's head gasket, because it's not  :y

See what they quote, but a few members here offer mobile mechanic work at a vastly cheaper cost I bet  :y Also be done right :)
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #18 on: 03 July 2014, 16:27:06 »

Just wondering why don't you just plug it? Two bolts, 10" of hose and two clips would be a lot cheaper and 100% warranty of not leaking again  :y
Explain Please???, its an Oil Cooler Fail.
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #19 on: 03 July 2014, 16:36:16 »

You could in theory bypass the cooler, there are downsides to this relating to oil temperature and engine warm up times.

Of course, you would now get coolant spraying out the cooler unless you made up a blanking plate.  :y
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #20 on: 03 July 2014, 16:51:42 »

Yeah forgot that plate, had in mind to just clean and plug the leaking cooler :D  You just put a hose between the two nips near the oil filter (feed and return of the heat exchangen aka cooler). DO NOT plug these because doing that is waving goodbye to oil pressure! Make a plate size of the coolers top or just clean the old leaking cooler and plug the holes on top.
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #21 on: 03 July 2014, 18:10:08 »

Just wondering why don't you just plug it? Two bolts, 10" of hose and two clips would be a lot cheaper and 100% warranty of not leaking again  :y 

100% won't leak into the coolant certainly. Coolant warms quicker than oil though, so will warm the engine oil quicker from cold.

 Then cool the oil once hot I would of thought.

But anyway, you see the gm thinking on its location for a customer passenger car. As was explained to me on here many moons ago as well. :)
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #22 on: 03 July 2014, 19:26:32 »

Yes I'm aware of what it's meant for and that's why I called it heat exchanger, was just offering a cheaper way out of that operation ;)  Not sure if you really need the cooling for the oil unless you like to go pedal to the metal on the autobahn or on a track but the oil heating function is usefull. One way is also to install aftermarket oil cooler behind the bumper but if the car is just for moving from A to B then it's pretty useless. But if you go for the cooler swap for new genuine VX part it should be the new improved version so it'll propably last for the rest of your car's lifetime  :)
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #23 on: 03 July 2014, 19:30:37 »

And given the old part had to be removed anyway.... :y
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #24 on: 03 July 2014, 20:27:35 »

Well the good news is the parts are Vauxhall parts. Also I have had a decent service from this garage, who look after my wifes car as well as my previous car ( ford focus diesel ). I know that it was suggested I use one the mechanics from here, but time was of the essence so I went for the option I know would get it done in time for me. In future I all certainly look here.
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #25 on: 03 July 2014, 22:58:17 »

Well the good news is the parts are Vauxhall parts. Also I have had a decent service from this garage, who look after my wifes car as well as my previous car ( ford focus diesel ). I know that it was suggested I use one the mechanics from here, but time was of the essence so I went for the option I know would get it done in time for me. In future I all certainly look here.



Just make sure they leave it over night for the sealant to harden off before they fill it or you will be doing it all again.  :y :y
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #26 on: 04 July 2014, 10:42:08 »

Just wondering why don't you just plug it? Two bolts, 10" of hose and two clips would be a lot cheaper and 100% warranty of not leaking again  :y 

100% won't leak into the coolant certainly. Coolant warms quicker than oil though, so will warm the engine oil quicker from cold.

 Then cool the oil once hot I would of thought.

But anyway, you see the gm thinking on its location for a customer passenger car. As was explained to me on here many moons ago as well. :)

Generally, oil warms faster than coolant actually as it gets sloshed around the head and back of the pistons plus there is a smaller volume of it so the oil would heat the coolant is the general rule in my experience.

What we have to consider is that oil coolers will last the life of the engine IF the coolant and antifreeze mix is correctly maintained.  :y
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #27 on: 04 July 2014, 15:22:58 »

iirc the first model of the cooler had some kind of design flaw and GM even gave discount for the job of swapping old leaky cooler the redesigned version so I guess even with extreme care the old cooler would pop at some point..
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #28 on: 04 July 2014, 15:28:53 »

iirc the first model of the cooler had some kind of design flaw and GM even gave discount for the job of swapping old leaky cooler the redesigned version so I guess even with extreme care the old cooler would pop at some point..

Old cooler was in about the first 12 months of production from memory, most of which would have been in the Vectra A/Cavalier
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Re: Coolant Mayo and losing oil
« Reply #29 on: 04 July 2014, 20:38:39 »

iirc the first model of the cooler had some kind of design flaw and GM even gave discount for the job of swapping old leaky cooler the redesigned version so I guess even with extreme care the old cooler would pop at some point..

Old cooler was in about the first 12 months of production from memory, most of which would have been in the Vectra A/Cavalier
Now when you said that yes it was Cavalier cooler that had those issues  ;D errare humanum est..  ::)
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