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[Rods2]

In Ukraine, Russians are also murdering innocent civilians everyday, including those poor souls on MH17. There was a video, from a western news agency yesterday showing terrorists indiscriminately firing mortars into civilian areas as part of their propaganda war saying it is Ukrainian army using artillery.

whats the relationship between poor palestinians and ukrainians Rods

they are rich , have water, electricty, health services , can move freely and even go abroad for summer vacation


also all community services working non-stop .. even discos and nightlife is active and tourists also traveling to Ukraine.. 


I have a close friend married to an Ukrainian girl and just arrived from there.. and she didnt complain about anything




can you see any bombs dropping
http://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/independence-square-kiev-live-webcam-kiev-ukraine/11367.html

I'm sure the 1,200 to date civilians killed in East Ukraine so far are really enjoy all of those comforts tonight!

Innocent civilians being killed is what I though this thread was currently talking about, this applies Palestinians, Ukrainians Syrians, Libyans, Iraqis and people in vast areas of Africa and I'm sure many other trouble spots around the world. When political leaders with their vested self-interests cause wars, then civilians pay a big price when they are caught in the crossfire. They always have been and they always will be, with those that cause the trouble normally walking away at the end of it scot free.

90% of the world's population want to get on with their lives in peace, unfortunately 10% don't and inflict much misery on the 90%.

[Sir Tigger KC]

.. and she didnt complain about anything 

That's unusual! 

[cem_devecioglu]

In Ukraine, Russians are also murdering innocent civilians everyday, including those poor souls on MH17. There was a video, from a western news agency yesterday showing terrorists indiscriminately firing mortars into civilian areas as part of their propaganda war saying it is Ukrainian army using artillery.

whats the relationship between poor palestinians and ukrainians Rods

they are rich , have water, electricty, health services , can move freely and even go abroad for summer vacation


also all community services working non-stop .. even discos and nightlife is active and tourists also traveling to Ukraine.. 


I have a close friend married to an Ukrainian girl and just arrived from there.. and she didnt complain about anything




can you see any bombs dropping
http://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/independence-square-kiev-live-webcam-kiev-ukraine/11367.html

I'm sure the 1,200 to date civilians killed in East Ukraine so far are really enjoy all of those comforts tonight!

Innocent civilians being killed is what I though this thread was currently talking about, this applies Palestinians, Ukrainians Syrians, Libyans, Iraqis and people in vast areas of Africa and I'm sure many other trouble spots around the world. When political leaders with their vested self-interests cause wars, then civilians pay a big price when they are caught in the crossfire. They always have been and they always will be, with those that cause the trouble normally walking away at the end of it scot free.

90% of the world's population want to get on with their lives in peace, unfortunately 10% don't and inflict much misery on the 90%.

Rods I can understand your sensitivity about Ukraine as your wife is Ukrainian.. but for most of us all are Russians speaking russian language   west give some of the Russians a carrot and now they are freedom fighters




and this 1200 is highly discussable number..

[cem_devecioglu]

.. and she didnt complain about anything 

That's unusual! 

more unusual is many Ukraine "Russians" are now in antalya burning their ar*e

[Rods2]

In Ukraine, Russians are also murdering innocent civilians everyday, including those poor souls on MH17. There was a video, from a western news agency yesterday showing terrorists indiscriminately firing mortars into civilian areas as part of their propaganda war saying it is Ukrainian army using artillery.

whats the relationship between poor palestinians and ukrainians Rods

they are rich , have water, electricty, health services , can move freely and even go abroad for summer vacation


also all community services working non-stop .. even discos and nightlife is active and tourists also traveling to Ukraine.. 


I have a close friend married to an Ukrainian girl and just arrived from there.. and she didnt complain about anything




can you see any bombs dropping
http://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/independence-square-kiev-live-webcam-kiev-ukraine/11367.html

I'm sure the 1,200 to date civilians killed in East Ukraine so far are really enjoy all of those comforts tonight!

Innocent civilians being killed is what I though this thread was currently talking about, this applies Palestinians, Ukrainians Syrians, Libyans, Iraqis and people in vast areas of Africa and I'm sure many other trouble spots around the world. When political leaders with their vested self-interests cause wars, then civilians pay a big price when they are caught in the crossfire. They always have been and they always will be, with those that cause the trouble normally walking away at the end of it scot free.

90% of the world's population want to get on with their lives in peace, unfortunately 10% don't and inflict much misery on the 90%.

Rods I can understand your sensitivity about Ukraine as your wife is Ukrainian.. but for most of us all are Russians speaking russian language   west give some of the Russians a carrot and now they are freedom fighters




and this 1200 is highly discussable number..

Ukrainians aren't Russians and the Ukrainian language precedes the Russian language as is known as old Russian. In the last 1000 years they have had their own state for about 500 years of that, the rest of the time they have been under mainly Polish and Russian empires.

Kievan Rus was a loose federation of tribes based with its capital in Kiev and covered Ukraine, Greece, Belarus and Western Russia and ran from 882-1283 until its collapse as a result of a Mongol invasion. Ukraine, Belarus and Russia all claim that as the basis of their distinct cultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'

It is like the Irish aren't English they have their own distinct culture. If you think it makes no difference, go to an Irish nationalist bar in Dublin and tell them how much you like the English like they are. Just be prepared to fight or to run very fast and for a very long time.

[05omegav6]

Whoa hold the press...

When did the Irish get cultured

[chrisgixer]

Of course, you know its all caused by farmers, don't you.

[cem_devecioglu]

In Ukraine, Russians are also murdering innocent civilians everyday, including those poor souls on MH17. There was a video, from a western news agency yesterday showing terrorists indiscriminately firing mortars into civilian areas as part of their propaganda war saying it is Ukrainian army using artillery.

whats the relationship between poor palestinians and ukrainians Rods

they are rich , have water, electricty, health services , can move freely and even go abroad for summer vacation


also all community services working non-stop .. even discos and nightlife is active and tourists also traveling to Ukraine.. 


I have a close friend married to an Ukrainian girl and just arrived from there.. and she didnt complain about anything




can you see any bombs dropping
http://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/independence-square-kiev-live-webcam-kiev-ukraine/11367.html

I'm sure the 1,200 to date civilians killed in East Ukraine so far are really enjoy all of those comforts tonight!

Innocent civilians being killed is what I though this thread was currently talking about, this applies Palestinians, Ukrainians Syrians, Libyans, Iraqis and people in vast areas of Africa and I'm sure many other trouble spots around the world. When political leaders with their vested self-interests cause wars, then civilians pay a big price when they are caught in the crossfire. They always have been and they always will be, with those that cause the trouble normally walking away at the end of it scot free.

90% of the world's population want to get on with their lives in peace, unfortunately 10% don't and inflict much misery on the 90%.

Rods I can understand your sensitivity about Ukraine as your wife is Ukrainian.. but for most of us all are Russians speaking russian language   west give some of the Russians a carrot and now they are freedom fighters




and this 1200 is highly discussable number..

Ukrainians aren't Russians and the Ukrainian language precedes the Russian language as is known as old Russian. In the last 1000 years they have had their own state for about 500 years of that, the rest of the time they have been under mainly Polish and Russian empires.

Kievan Rus was a loose federation of tribes based with its capital in Kiev and covered Ukraine, Greece, Belarus and Western Russia and ran from 882-1283 until its collapse as a result of a Mongol invasion. Ukraine, Belarus and Russia all claim that as the basis of their distinct cultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'

It is like the Irish aren't English they have their own distinct culture. If you think it makes no difference, go to an Irish nationalist bar in Dublin and tell them how much you like the English like they are. Just be prepared to fight or to run very fast and for a very long time.

whatever you say, tell, they are still russians for us


at that century only historians may be interested in your genetic origin..  but the last decision is made by who pays the salary


all the infrastructure in Ukraine is made and paid by Russian public money..  and the technology they have is the same..


and the west now trying to divide and conquer Russia..  this much simple..



and a similar game played in my country

[Rog]

Ok folks, the Gaza crisis will be over very soon now. Thanks to this . . . .

http://www.carmarthenjournal.co.uk/Carmarthen-calls-peace-Gaza/story-22012045-detail/story.html

[05omegav6]

Ok folks, the Gaza crisis will be over very soon now. Thanks to this . . . .

http://www.carmarthenjournal.co.uk/Carmarthen-calls-peace-Gaza/story-22012045-detail/story.html

Ah yes, the power of wishful thinking

[pscocoa]

The UN are making plenty of noise but doing nothing as usual and something I have experienced several times.

If you are going to declare an area safe for refuge you have a responsibility to make sure that refuge is not infiltrated by terrorists and if it is you report same to a unit whose job it is to be in contact with Israel on next steps.

So we are talking some sort of perimeter space around a UN refuge which is to be properly policed and if Hamas rocket and mortar people infiltrate then you tell the people you are protecting why their safety is threatened and work with Hamas and Israel to deal with problem.

UN are pathetic when it comes to action.

[cem_devecioglu]

The UN are making plenty of noise but doing nothing as usual and something I have experienced several times.

If you are going to declare an area safe for refuge you have a responsibility to make sure that refuge is not infiltrated by terrorists and if it is you report same to a unit whose job it is to be in contact with Israel on next steps.

So we are talking some sort of perimeter space around a UN refuge which is to be properly policed and if Hamas rocket and mortar people infiltrate then you tell the people you are protecting why their safety is threatened and work with Hamas and Israel to deal with problem.

UN are pathetic when it comes to action.

agreed..

[chrisgixer]

Indeed, makes perfect sense, and hadn't even considered any of that.