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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #15 on: 10 November 2014, 17:22:42 »

A lad at work had a pattern crank sensor fitted to his VAG car by a local garage. Car ran for a short while then packed in, so he took it to VW where they diagnosed a faulty/damaged loom that supplied the crank sensor. £££££s later the car still wouldn't run properly, so then eventually VW noticed that the car had a pattern sensor fitted. Changed it for a genuine OE sensor & BINGO! The car was sorted. So now Buck wants his money back for the loom they fitted unnecessarily & VW don't want to give it him.
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #16 on: 10 November 2014, 17:27:08 »

A lad at work had a pattern crank sensor fitted to his VAG car by a local garage. Car ran for a short while then packed in, so he took it to VW where they diagnosed a faulty/damaged loom that supplied the crank sensor. £££££s later the car still wouldn't run properly, so then eventually VW noticed that the car had a pattern sensor fitted. Changed it for a genuine OE sensor & BINGO! The car was sorted. So now Buck wants his money back for the loom they fitted unnecessarily & VW don't want to give it him.
I can sense the surprise at that, or rather the lack of, from here ::)
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #17 on: 10 November 2014, 17:27:59 »

A lad at work had a pattern crank sensor fitted to his VAG car by a local garage. Car ran for a short while then packed in, so he took it to VW where they diagnosed a faulty/damaged loom that supplied the crank sensor. £££££s later the car still wouldn't run properly, so then eventually VW noticed that the car had a pattern sensor fitted. Changed it for a genuine OE sensor & BINGO! The car was sorted. So now Buck wants his money back for the loom they fitted unnecessarily & VW don't want to give it him.
A colleague had some success with getting refunds from MB when they fitted a new SAM to his Smart (as requested) but never sealed the leak, and wanted to charge him another £600 to replace the SAM 6 weeks later...
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #18 on: 10 November 2014, 17:34:04 »

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 ..... when they fitted a new SAM to his Smart (as requested) but never sealed the leak, and wanted to charge him another £600 to replace the SAM 6 weeks later...

Doesn't surprise me. On the Roadster (no idea about the others) the need to seal the scuttle area under the wiper mechanism is well documented - that's about the only place her Smart didn't/hasn't leaked from (yet  ::))
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #19 on: 10 November 2014, 17:37:42 »

Maybe the Omega is particularly fussy due to placement and nearby signal hostility?

Yes it is, there was some discussion over this matter on the VectraSport forums many years ago (X20XEV used on the Vectra B), seems GM made some modification to the wiring spec for the cam sensor as the cable would harden and go brittle and the shielding would fail IIRC.

On the X20XEV if you have no start at all it is often BOTH the Cam and the Crank sensor because either one working will allow the engine to be persuaded to begrudgingly start and run in limp mode. Don't trust a code reader, even Tech II to accurately diagnose this
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #20 on: 10 November 2014, 17:38:00 »

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 ..... when they fitted a new SAM to his Smart (as requested) but never sealed the leak, and wanted to charge him another £600 to replace the SAM 6 weeks later...

Doesn't surprise me. On the Roadster (no idea about the others) the need to seal the scuttle area under the wiper mechanism is well documented - that's about the only place her Smart didn't/hasn't leaked from (yet  ::))
They all do. They are all poorly designed, poorly built pieces of shite (ignoring what fun they can actually be for a mo). But owned by MB, so they must be good ::)
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #21 on: 10 November 2014, 17:57:34 »

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They all do. They are all poorly designed, poorly built pieces of shite (ignoring what fun they can actually be for a mo). But owned by MB, so they must be good ::)

I agree with all the above, though you missed out - built in France  ::) ...... but it's fun to drive all the same  ;). I think Airfix must've had an input to the interior design  ::) ;D
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #22 on: 10 November 2014, 19:20:03 »

Quick look on line,if you have an isuzu dealer near you,it maybe cheaper from them,i think they add an 8 infront of the vx part number.
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #23 on: 12 November 2014, 17:13:42 »

Well new vauxhall sensor fitted and still no start, so would you go the crank sensor route?
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #24 on: 12 November 2014, 17:21:15 »

Is it a a Saloon or estate and is the fuel light on?
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #25 on: 12 November 2014, 17:32:51 »

Well new vauxhall sensor fitted and still no start, so would you go the crank sensor route?
Assuming yours is petrol, dodgy crank sensor will not prevent a 4-pot from starting eventually
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #26 on: 12 November 2014, 22:00:08 »

Half tank of fuel, from reading on hear it seemed classic cam sensor, starting in limp mode sometimes, so assumed it had finally packed up. Thats the opposite to what local vaux garage told me, he said cam sensor wouldnt stop it sxtarting but crank sensor would?
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #27 on: 12 November 2014, 22:29:31 »

Sorry Estate
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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #28 on: 12 November 2014, 22:47:37 »

Sorry Estate
How much fuel in the tank ?

The estate seems to need more than 1/4 tank before it will start if it hasn't been used for a while. You wouldn't be the first person to pull the engine apart looking for a problem that was really caused by a lack of fuel. :(

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Re: FAE cam sensor
« Reply #29 on: 12 November 2014, 23:43:54 »

Half a tank is plenty :y Does the fuel pump run when the ignition is first switched on?

Checking for fuel and spark are both free tests before splashing for a crank sensor, assuming that it doesn't have a pattern one fitted currently...

As RobG says, it should eventually fire with a duff crank sensor, so the fact it isn't inspite of the genuine cam sensor suggests the possibility of another issue  :-\
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