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[Terbs]

I have just turned the telly on and it was on BBC Parliament channel.
It is live from the house of lords, some bloke is spouting away on a debate on working conditions in the care sector.
Shows how important it is....there are all of twelve people in the house.
What is the point

[tidla]

All twelve get paid. All the rest got clocked in by the other 12... 

[ronnyd]

Just another gravy train.

[chrisgixer]

Where they awake, the 12?

[flyer 0712]

Lets face it they will pay for their private care with our money so they have no worries,,,wasters all of them......

[Vamps]

I have just turned the telly on and it was on BBC Parliament channel.
It is live from the house of lords, some bloke is spouting away on a debate on working conditions in the care sector.
Shows how important it is....there are all of twelve people in the house.
What is the point

It is an area of employment that needs sorting out, the working conditions and pay are very poor, for what is a very important and much needed service to many many people...........

[Terbs]

Ah...I did not mean it to come over as a non important subject, far from it, Mike, unless I misinterpreted your reply
It was meant as a sarcastic statement to show that they don't give a toss about care conditions, otherwise a damn sight more than twelve would have shown up, for what I regard is a very important subject.
Care has a great place in my agenda as I have a 94 year old mother in nursing care at the moment suffering from alzeimers/dementia

[Vamps]

Ah...I did not mean it to come over as a non important subject, far from it, Mike, unless I misinterpreted your reply
It was meant as a sarcastic statement to show that they don't give a toss about care conditions, otherwise a damn sight more than twelve would have shown up, for what I regard is a very important subject.
Care has a great place in my agenda as I have a 94 year old mother in nursing care at the moment suffering from alzeimers/dementia

I took your post as you intended it Tony, a dig at those who who should be taking the issues more seriously, my frowns are because it is a subject that is not taken seriously enough, the pay is very poor, preventing many who want to be professional from doing the job, particularly Men.................

[Terbs]

Great, Mike...
I have a friend (male) who works in care in the Manchester area. He works long hours looking after special needs people, and his wages are a pittance. But he wouldn't dream of leaving the job. Total dedication. I am afraid, he and the politicians/lords should swap salaries with him.
Sad to say, but I could not do his job in a million years. He is a saint in disguise

[Vamps]

Great, Mike...
I have a friend (male) who works in care in the Manchester area. He works long hours looking after special needs people, and his wages are a pittance. But he wouldn't dream of leaving the job. Total dedication. I am afraid, he and the politicians/lords should swap salaries with him.
Sad to say, but I could not do his job in a million years. He is a saint in disguise

Now you have got me at it, I did not mean to suggest that many people do not take their role as a carer/support worker seriously and professionally, just that those who do suffer with poor wages and conditions of employment.......

[Sir Tigger KC]

About the only decent policy I've heard coming from Labour recently is to change the Lord's into a fully elected Senate. 

Mind you if the incompetant retards had done the job properly 10 years ago when they were in power and supposedly 'reformed' the place, then maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation. 

[Terbs]

Mike....I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet, mate.

Obviously a topic we both care about (excuse the pun)

I know politics is frowned on on here, but if we don't bring things like this to the attention of others, how will we ever change things.

[Varche]

Ruddy hell, I have just read through this whole thread and only realised on last post it was a politics thread.

Until then I thought it was a social injustice thread of important people getting paid loads of money by us and not bothering turning up to do their work.

Just as an aside. As people(us) live longer and longer just how is the bill for care going to be footed?

[Terbs]

Ruddy hell, I have just read through this whole thread and only realised on last post it was a politics thread.

Until then I thought it was a social injustice thread of important people getting paid loads of money by us and not bothering turning up to do their work.

Just as an aside. As people(us) live longer and longer just how is the bill for care going to be footed?

By stopping pension payments to people living the high life in Spain and surrounding areas 

(Only joking, buddy)

[Vamps]

Ruddy hell, I have just read through this whole thread and only realised on last post it was a politics thread.

Until then I thought it was a social injustice thread of important people getting paid loads of money by us and not bothering turning up to do their work.

Just as an aside. As people(us) live longer and longer just how is the bill for care going to be footed?

By stopping pension payments to people living the high life in Spain and surrounding areas 

(Only joking, buddy)