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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #15 on: 16 January 2015, 20:49:45 »

Hmm. What next? Silence, or join the forum and come and flounce? ;D
Should I get the popcorn ready? ::)
You'll never guess what I'm currently eating, in front of a DVD. :D
Ice cream? :-\
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #16 on: 16 January 2015, 20:49:55 »

Fancy that... ;D
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #17 on: 16 January 2015, 21:08:15 »

Curry flavour? :-\
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #18 on: 16 January 2015, 21:18:46 »

I won't link to it, but that silver MV6 which has been doing the rounds has serious issues that the unwary might not spot... have taken the liberty of asking the seller three questions, the most important of which is regarding the service history...

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Hi there, I am considering your car, and had a few questions...

1.  You say it has a limited slip diff. Apparently it was never built with one. When was it fitted and what proof is there of this.

2. When was the car reupholstered, and again what evidence of this is there? Vauxhall never offered nappa leather on the Omega.

3. Looking at the service history, the car was serviced on the 8/11/12 at 79k and four stamps later it seems to have been serviced again on 7/11/12 at 98k. Which is correct and are there any receipts to back this up?
I will post the answers, if any, when they arrive...

Well that looks like I am owed three pints then...

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i was told the car has lsd by previous owner also the leather is different to elite models the service history both dates are 7-11-12 98k Vauxhall made a mistake and entered it twice in the service book in the pictures looks like 8 but its 7 also mileage looks like 79 but is actually 98 you can even phone the Vauxhall dealer yourself to verify history thx

Which leads me to ask the following...

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Hi there,

I take it then that the previous owner had no paperwork to verify the differential change then, as I have a mate who is a service manager at a Vauxhall dealership, and he has been able to get the factory build data from the factory. No mention of a limited slip diff on the build sheet...

Yes the sports seats are a different shape to the Elite ones, but the leather is the same. Neither model had Nappa leather from new.

Regarding the service history, I understand that mistakes happen, but that doesn't explain how Service number 8 was filled in by accident over two years after Service number 9.

Again, do you have any paperwork to corroberate what you are claiming?

Again, I shall keep you posted with any reply...

Well, if it's double or quits, I am up six pints...

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i sent the service book back to Vauxhall as 2 service stamps were not stamped the last 2 stamps they stamped but stamped the same one again thx

So what the seller is saying is that the dealer stamped the book for the wrong services in the wrong place... ::)

Still no mention of receipts to back this up, so I asked again...

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Do you, or do you not have any paperwork or receipts to confirm any of what you have told me?

It's not a trick question (well it sort of is) which only needs a simple Yes or No answer, but one he does seem frustratingly keen to avoid answering...
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05omegav6

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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #19 on: 16 January 2015, 21:20:54 »

Curry flavour? :-\
Hmm tikka popcorn... :-\
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The Sheriff

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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #20 on: 16 January 2015, 21:21:49 »

I'd be fickin keen to avoid someone like you as well  ;D

My reply would be "D'yer wanna buy it? No? Well piss off then".  ;D
« Last Edit: 16 January 2015, 21:26:03 by STMO »
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #21 on: 16 January 2015, 21:22:30 »

Curry flavour? :-\
Hmm tikka popcorn... :-\
Stop interrupting while I'm answering a post, you.
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #22 on: 16 January 2015, 21:23:24 »

Curry flavour? :-\
Hmm tikka popcorn... :-\
Stop interrupting while I'm answering a post, you.
Moi... ::)
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #23 on: 16 January 2015, 22:02:48 »

I won't link to it, but that silver MV6 which has been doing the rounds has serious issues that the unwary might not spot... have taken the liberty of asking the seller three questions, the most important of which is regarding the service history...

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Hi there, I am considering your car, and had a few questions...

1.  You say it has a limited slip diff. Apparently it was never built with one. When was it fitted and what proof is there of this.

2. When was the car reupholstered, and again what evidence of this is there? Vauxhall never offered nappa leather on the Omega.

3. Looking at the service history, the car was serviced on the 8/11/12 at 79k and four stamps later it seems to have been serviced again on 7/11/12 at 98k. Which is correct and are there any receipts to back this up?
I will post the answers, if any, when they arrive...

Well that looks like I am owed three pints then...

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i was told the car has lsd by previous owner also the leather is different to elite models the service history both dates are 7-11-12 98k Vauxhall made a mistake and entered it twice in the service book in the pictures looks like 8 but its 7 also mileage looks like 79 but is actually 98 you can even phone the Vauxhall dealer yourself to verify history thx

Which leads me to ask the following...

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Hi there,

I take it then that the previous owner had no paperwork to verify the differential change then, as I have a mate who is a service manager at a Vauxhall dealership, and he has been able to get the factory build data from the factory. No mention of a limited slip diff on the build sheet...

Yes the sports seats are a different shape to the Elite ones, but the leather is the same. Neither model had Nappa leather from new.

Regarding the service history, I understand that mistakes happen, but that doesn't explain how Service number 8 was filled in by accident over two years after Service number 9.

Again, do you have any paperwork to corroberate what you are claiming?

Again, I shall keep you posted with any reply...

Well, if it's double or quits, I am up six pints...

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i sent the service book back to Vauxhall as 2 service stamps were not stamped the last 2 stamps they stamped but stamped the same one again thx

So what the seller is saying is that the dealer stamped the book for the wrong services in the wrong place... ::)

Still no mention of receipts to back this up, so I asked again...

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Do you, or do you not have any paperwork or receipts to confirm any of what you have told me?

It's not a trick question (well it sort of is) which only needs a simple Yes or No answer, but one he does seem frustratingly keen to avoid answering...

Well I'll be blowed... Three for three...

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no

And my reply...

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Ok, thank you for your honesty.

There's no point asking if the car has had all the usual Omega issues addressed then, as without proof of any of the work being done I would assume that they will all need urgent attention.

You might wish to reword your listing to correct ALL the inaccuracies in it, as your answers are public knowledge.

Good luck with the sale....
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Re: Buyer beware... KM52HPO
« Reply #24 on: 16 January 2015, 22:13:46 »

So to be clear, whilst this might be a clean and well cared for car, it has NO reliable history, so anyone considering buying it would be well advised to budget for the following:

Front wishbones
Steering idler
Camcover gaskets
Breather clean (alleged main dealer servicing)
Full service including plugs
Cambelt
Gearbox fluid and filter
Heater Bypass Valve
Coilpacks

So Dr Optis appraisal of the value, (£750ish) is probably much nearer the mark than £1750...

Incidentally, the sellers reply to my last message was simply...

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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #25 on: 16 January 2015, 22:15:28 »

I presume he replied ok as he got rumbled  ;D ;D
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #26 on: 16 January 2015, 22:44:26 »

OK. I might be missing something, put it down to age,................. but what is wrong with those seats, other than they are leather, they are Omega seats, but I don't like leather...... :-\
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #27 on: 16 January 2015, 22:46:52 »

He stated they were nappa leather,trying to make it sound very good lol
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #28 on: 16 January 2015, 22:49:05 »

He stated they were nappa leather,trying to make it sound very good lol

Thanks for that........... :y :y
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Re: Buyer beware...
« Reply #29 on: 16 January 2015, 23:20:54 »

Vamps....Were you interested then  :-\
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