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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Would I be correct in thinking this is the same GM lump?....As used in the Griffin.

If so why does the Omega make 213 BHP, when the Saab needs a turbo to make a paltry 200 BHP?

[tigers_gonads]

Iirc, the SAAB donkey was tuned for more torque lower down hence the fetish with the turbo.

I also believe the turbo only spun up off one exhaust bank too 

[omegod]

Iirc, the SAAB donkey was tuned for more torque lower down hence the fetish with the turbo.

I also believe the turbo only spun up off one exhaust bank too 

Bit of a pointless engine in the 9000 as my 2.3 turbo 4 pot is about 220 bhp standard

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Iirc, the SAAB donkey was tuned for more torque lower down hence the fetish with the turbo.

I also believe the turbo only spun up off one exhaust bank too 

Bit of a pointless engine in the 9000 as my 2.3 turbo 4 pot is about 220 bhp standard

It seems that way. A replacement blower will be far from cheap.

Why bother with the complication and expense.

[Broomies Mate]

Iirc, the SAAB donkey was tuned for more torque lower down hence the fetish with the turbo.

I also believe the turbo only spun up off one exhaust bank too 

Bit of a pointless engine in the 9000 as my 2.3 turbo 4 pot is about 220 bhp standard

I kept getting asked when I bought my 9-5 why I didn't go for the V6.  Quite easy really, 250BHP from the 4-pot (285BHP with a remap), easy to work on, more reliable, more fuel efficient.

The only downside is the noise - It doesn't sound like a V6. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The 2.3 litre four pot Turbo Saab's seem good value.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

The 2.3 litre four pot Turbo Saab's seem good value.

I'm on the lookout for one but I'm quite picky and very skint...

[omegod]

The 2.3 litre four pot Turbo Saab's seem good value.

I'm on the lookout for one but I'm quite picky and very skint...

Mine will be getting moved on soon.....want me to give ye a shout nearer the time ?

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Sort of makes you wonder why GM didn't pick and choose a bit more and transplant the Saab unit into an Omega - or even a Vectra. I mean the ST / GSi 'only' had the G-cam'd X25XE with 195bhp - as you say, with a remap of the Saab Turbo you get 258bhp, all from a 2.3. Perhaps in the case of the Vectra Supertouring/ST200 there was the Homologation element to it, but not such with the GSi, or any other 'sporty' version they may wished to have made.

Ok, perhaps the Vectra a bad idea with chassis limitations, plus at this time late 90s-ish there hadn't been a hot hatch over 200bhp (I think - wasn't there the Alfa 147 about then, allegedly you 'couldn't' but any more than 200 brake through the front wheels? Wasn't until Astra VXRs came along that Ford/VW etc started doing 200bhp + hot hatches?) Ok, defeating my own argument with the Vectra perhaps, but an Omega Turbo would have been a nice option. And considering the 'cheap' engineering involved. (in car Design terms cheap, anyway, engine sharing across marques very much commonplace) makes you wonder... 

[TheBoy]

Iirc, the SAAB donkey was tuned for more torque lower down hence the fetish with the turbo.

I also believe the turbo only spun up off one exhaust bank too 

Bit of a pointless engine in the 9000 as my 2.3 turbo 4 pot is about 220 bhp standard

I kept getting asked when I bought my 9-5 why I didn't go for the V6.  Quite easy really, 250BHP from the 4-pot (285BHP with a remap), easy to work on, more reliable, more fuel ef

[TheBoy]

Low down torque s good as V6?

[henryd]

Low down torque s good as V6?

Low down torque is epic on the 2.3 turbo Saab lump,as soon as the turbo blows it's off 

[MV6Matt]

Could you put the 2.3 in a 2.2 Omega?

That would be a rather nice Omega 'sleeper'.......

Would the Vauxhall gearbox take a tuned BHP from a turbo'd engine?

[omegod]

Could you put the 2.3 in a 2.2 Omega?

That would be a rather nice Omega 'sleeper'.......

Would the Vauxhall gearbox take a tuned BHP from a turbo'd engine?

R28 box will bolt straight up as the bell housing pattern is the same post 93, I've heard they can take 350 bhp which the saab engine can easily produce. Would make a brilliant sleeper in GLS spec

[The Sheriff]

Could you put the 2.3 in a 2.2 Omega?

That would be a rather nice Omega 'sleeper'.......

Would the Vauxhall gearbox take a tuned BHP from a turbo'd engine?

R28 box will bolt straight up as the bell housing pattern is the same post 93, I've heard they can take 350 bhp which the saab engine can easily produce. Would make a brilliant sleeper in GLS spec

Could the rest of the car take it though? Doubtful.