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[Shackeng]

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh!

Mine is a chipped auto, and I get 25 on my short local journeys, and 33 on motorway runs.

[P6UL K]

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh!

Mine is a chipped auto, and I get 25 on my short local journeys, and 33 on motorway runs.

Sounds good enough to me! 

[relluf]

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh!

Mine is a chipped auto, and I get 25 on my short local journeys, and 33 on motorway runs.

I did a 340 mile round trip over the weekend to didcot and bake which admittedly is almost all dual carriage way and motorway.
Set the mid all to zero at home and it told me I had achieved 51.2 mpg over that distance but my mph average was only at 48

[05omegav6]

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh!

Mine is a chipped auto, and I get 25 on my short local journeys, and 33 on motorway runs.

A manual 3.2 should match that

[Shackeng]

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh!

Mine is a chipped auto, and I get 25 on my short local journeys, and 33 on motorway runs.

A manual 3.2 should match that

My 3.2 Auto is about the same

[05omegav6]

Which makes the extra cost of diesel fuel reason enough not to bother...

[Kevin Wood]

Which makes the extra cost of diesel fuel reason enough not to bother...

Yes, was going to say that my 3.2 could match that on cheaper fuel, with more power available, a quieter engine, sensible oil change intervals, etc... QED

[chrisgixer]

Yep, add in lift pump costs and lack of reliability, cracked heads, melted engine mounts, turbos and injector costs as Nick says. They really don't make sense ESP next to a gassed 3.2.

[Shackeng]

Yep, add in lift pump costs and lack of reliability, cracked heads, melted engine mounts, turbos and injector costs as Nick says. They really don't make sense ESP next to a gassed 3.2.

Cheer me up why don't you.
My experience of running both, even with the lower annual mileage I cover in the 3.2, is that maintenance is simpler and less often required on the TD. Giving a hostage to fortune, I have never had a problem with any of the above in 16 years of TD ownership.

[chrisgixer]

Yep, add in lift pump costs and lack of reliability, cracked heads, melted engine mounts, turbos and injector costs as Nick says. They really don't make sense ESP next to a gassed 3.2.

Cheer me up why don't you.
My experience of running both, even with the lower annual mileage I cover in the 3.2, is that maintenance is simpler and less often required on the TD. Giving a hostage to fortune, I have never had a problem with any of the above in 16 years of TD ownership.

Oh don't get me wrong, 3.2 has its faults as we all know. But they are much better documented on here. TB had agro with his [carrots on]Traaarcderrr[carrots off] iirc.

BMW diseasel lumps all pretty much have the same faults. Even in BMW cars. 120k on and savings for disasters have all gone. Sooner in some cases. Especially among those who still commute.

[Kevin Wood]

Oh don't get me wrong, 3.2 has its faults as we all know. But they are much better documented on here. TB had agro with his [carrots on]Traaarcderrr[carrots off] iirc.

Just a little. How many times did we have the engine out?

Thing is, the 3.2 very rarely has a major issue. OK, it needs cam belt changes and the occasional cam cover gasket.

The 2.5TD has an troublesome cooling system and, at the slightest hint of overheating, the head warps. Fine if you never have a problem, but, if you do, it turns into months of looking for water leaks and chasing your tail before the inevitable.

Plus the sensitivity to oil changes. If you're lucky enough to get one early in its' life before it's been abused, then fair do's, but that isn't going to happen any more. The chances of finding a TD that hasn't had at least one owner who's had it for a couple of years yet never lifted the bonnet are slim, hence the rot has set in with most of them.

BMW diseasel lumps all pretty much have the same faults. Even in BMW cars. 120k on and savings for disasters have all gone. Sooner in some cases. Especially among those who still commute.

The Omega's era of TD is reliable in comparison to the later common rail engines yet not really economical enough to make it worthwhile. I would imagine the common rail engines probably go some way to sorting the economy, but look at the hassle people have with those!

[Shackeng]

It may be that there is limited experience because of the low numbers of TD's on here. Seth, I know, was very happy with his, as am I, having only had a condenser and AC Compressor change, together with the aforementioned welding, as above and beyond normal items in my 16 years of ownership. Wishbones, gloplugs etc. I deem to be normal maintenance.

[Doctor Smeagol]

Then there's the auto box issues, as the op touched, on. The ar25 can barely cope with oe mapping. Never mind the re map to make it useable. Ar35 a must.

[Kevin Wood]

Then there's the auto box issues, as the op touched, on. The ar25 can barely cope with oe mapping. Never mind the re map to make it useable. Ar35 a must.

True, and that the ratios in the autobox aren't really ideal for a diesel engine in the first place.

[Shackeng]

Then there's the auto box issues, as the op touched, on. The ar25 can barely cope with oe mapping. Never mind the re map to make it useable. Ar35 a must.

True, and that the ratios in the autobox aren't really ideal for a diesel engine in the first place.

I can't argue with that, but have found ways to compensate successfully by using 3rd and sport mode to overcome this issue.