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Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« on: 12 July 2015, 20:46:21 »

As per my pics in the meets/gatherings section I think I may have fallen for one of the above.

Do these come up for sale very often? A quick search of the trader doesn't provide anything.

I noticed that behind one of the Velox's laid a small metal box. 'What's that'? My mum asked. 'I get closer. 'It looks like a differential' I say. Just as I'm explaining roughly what a diff is for I noticed a gear stick coming out of it  :o I never knew gearboxes went that small.

So anyway. . . I appreciate looking after the body of an old classic would be hard work. But I'm presuming that from a mechanical work point it's stupidly easy, especially with gearboxes the size of a tin of beans lol however I presume that getting parts is a pain?

Finally one thing I did notice (bear in mind I wasn't around in the fifties or sixties) was how the crestas had a definite american fifties caddy look. Is this because of the American GM links? Anyone got any interesting history trivia?
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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #1 on: 12 July 2015, 21:25:36 »

As per my pics in the meets/gatherings section I think I may have fallen for one of the above.

Do these come up for sale very often? A quick search of the trader doesn't provide anything.

I noticed that behind one of the Velox's laid a small metal box. 'What's that'? My mum asked. 'I get closer. 'It looks like a differential' I say. Just as I'm explaining roughly what a diff is for I noticed a gear stick coming out of it  :o I never knew gearboxes went that small.

So anyway. . . I appreciate looking after the body of an old classic would be hard work. But I'm presuming that from a mechanical work point it's stupidly easy, especially with gearboxes the size of a tin of beans lol however I presume that getting parts is a pain?

Finally one thing I did notice (bear in mind I wasn't around in the fifties or sixties) was how the crestas had a definite american fifties caddy look. Is this because of the American GM links? Anyone got any interesting history trivia?

Invest in a set of feeler gauges, Mr Bear. :y
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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #2 on: 12 July 2015, 21:27:14 »

.....just what you need for  your points. :y
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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #3 on: 12 July 2015, 21:44:29 »

Webby, I had a Velox. a Cresta and a Wyvern in the 60s and they are about as complicated to work on as a bicycle.

If you have never been close to a car of that period prepare to be amazed at the simplicity of DIY on them, and the extreme lack of 'stuff ' under the bonnet compared to todays cars.
Good luck with whatever you buy.

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« Reply #4 on: 12 July 2015, 21:54:23 »

Thanks boys.

I have a set of feeler gauges but rarely use them. What particularly would I need them for. . . Valve clearances presumably?

Amazonian. . . Great stuff . I like simplicity
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« Reply #6 on: 12 July 2015, 22:02:21 »

I still have the feeler gauges that I used then, you need them mostly for setting the gap in the spark plugs and the points in the distributor.

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« Reply #7 on: 12 July 2015, 22:05:40 »

Most people believe spark plugs come 'ready' to plonk in.  Always worth setting the gap with a feeler gauge.  You'd be surprised how many plugs are .5mm out!  :y
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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #8 on: 13 July 2015, 08:42:47 »

Oooh, bleeding ell, I once suggested that it's good form to check the plug gaps, in spite of all plugs these days being 'gapped' from factory (you can't guarantee a box hasn't been dropped, after all) and effectively got called an idiot for it  ??? Anyway, I agree with you, Mr Broomies mate, agree always worth checking the gaps, and older type plugs do need gapping  :)



As for Mr The Bear's post, I'm with you there, brother!  Adore the older Vauxhalls, and yes, thanks to the ties with GM, basically what would happen is Vauxhall would send over their prototype models in clay form for an 'ok' from the Detroit bosses. In the case of the F series Victor it was damaged in transit, whereupon they 'improved' its looks, sent it back with the note 'yeah, just like this' the F Victor was stylistically over the top, and didn't sell too well in the UK (but an export success) the PA Cresta/Velox (the contemporary of the F Victor) was by far the cleaner, 'more right' design.

That process of the final say-so from GM continued right until, well present day, basically. But obviously these days a USB stick or decent broadband connection can carry a full 3D CAD model wherever you like for scrutiny.

Often when you look at a 60s-70s Vauxhall, somewhere there's another GM car that looks very similar. Check out the FD Victor and the 63 Buick Riviera for one example.  :)


Hoping to get an HB or maybe an FD Victor myself over the next few years.  :y

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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #9 on: 13 July 2015, 11:40:05 »

No 'nancy boy' fuel injection systems for you then, Mr Bear.

Just good old-fashioned carbs. :y

Add a colourtune your your list of must have products. My old Triumph 2500S managed 13 MPG once I had set up it's twin SU's with one of these johnnies. :y

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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #10 on: 13 July 2015, 12:06:39 »

No 'nancy boy' fuel injection systems for you then, Mr Bear.

Just good old-fashioned carbs. :y

Add a colourtune your your list of must have products. My old Triumph 2500S managed 13 MPG once I had set up it's twin SU's with one of these johnnies. :y

13mpg!  Why did you need a Colourtune to get it that bad?

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Re: Vx Cresta, VIva, Velox etc.
« Reply #11 on: 13 July 2015, 12:42:48 »

No 'nancy boy' fuel injection systems for you then, Mr Bear.

Just good old-fashioned carbs. :y

Add a colourtune your your list of must have products. My old Triumph 2500S managed 13 MPG once I had set up it's twin SU's with one of these johnnies. :y

13mpg!  Why did you need a Colourtune to get it that bad?

I could only get it too run smoothly when it was running 'super rich'.....bright orange flame.

With the right mixture (blue flame) it wouldn't pull. :-\

I imagine that just about every component in the carbs was worn out.
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« Reply #13 on: 13 July 2015, 13:08:31 »

Yup, the PAs are the most desirable. No-one cares about the PB, though (and admittedly, it's not comparable in the style stakes) the FB, the FC. Thanksfully, the PCs, FDs and HBs are still pretty affordable, and absolutely dripping with style, the like of which we'll never see again. The PC, though, is easily rarer than a Lotus Carlton, and almost makes Carlton Diamond Estates looks commmonplace.  :)
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