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[powerslinky]

hi all
        I had a thread running on this rear oil seal failure a while back but am now considering attempting to replace it myself .

The car  ( '03 3.2 MV6 Auto ) is sorned & not in use so time factor for doing it does not matter.

What I would like to know is what exactly has to be removed & what can stay in situ to do this job?

The car is already on stands & well clear of the ground , enough for me to get under quite comfortably to work.

So my programme would be something like this :

1. cat back exhaust off

2. cats & sensor wiring off

3. exhaust heat sheilds off

4. drop prop shaft

5. remove starter,( is this neccesary ? ) but if so , battery is already disconnected

6. remove bell housing bolts

7. remove auto box mounting bolts

8. support engine & tilt so transmission tips downwards at rear 

9. disconnect selector rod , wiring connectors  to box  & transmission fluid pipes from box

9a. support auto box on suitable trolly jack/s

10. remove TC flange plate bolts

11. wiggle box  with TC & engine apart

12. roll gearbox/ TC  clear of car

13. now ready to investigate & replace rear crankshaft oil seal

Have I missed anything or is there anything listed that does not need to be removed to replace this oil seal please ?

Is the order of what I have suggested correct ?

I have tried searching the forum but cannot find a "how to" for this job , so presume there is not one 

Any advice or help greatly appriciated  TIA       Al

[T.m.f]

Use new flywheel bolts,and get them before you start,just done mine on tmf but took engine out as that was the easier option for me.

[serek]

Use new flywheel bolts,and get them before you start,just done mine on tmf but took engine out as that was the easier option for me.

thats hardcore option

[serek]

don't need to do anything with starter motor leave where is 
other then that you should be ok 

[05omegav6]

Removing exhaust is a bit excessive... And as said starter can stay

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

[powerslinky]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

Well DBG . . . had a thread running a couple of months or so back regarding this when it happened (sorry but can't link you to it  )

But bottom line is that there is now engine oil inside the bell housing. Oil drips from the 2 torx bolts at the bottom of the bell housing . Around 6-7 drips overnight after car has been running . Removing both   rubber bungs & putting a finger in there , finger comes out with engine oil on it . General thought on OOf is that engine oil can only get into the bell housing if the rear crank oil seal has failed

May just sell the car cheap  as it is  . . . . looks a bit to much of a job for me to do   & as car is sorned it is a problem to get it to Serek to do it 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Thansk for the reply.

Well, I always say it, but worth doing the job. You'll have done a good days work  If it makes you feel any better I'm doing a full engine and gearbox oil / filter change this weekend, up a shared 8ft access driveway thingamy. 

[powerslinky]

Removing exhaust is a bit excessive... And as said starter can stay

Ok then Al  . . . so will prop disconnect just from the gearbox end if exhaust & heatsheilds stay in place ?

Or put another way can the propshaft be disconnected from the gearbox with the cat back exhaust  heatshields in place?

Last question  . . how awkward is it drill out the manifold to cat studs  in situ if they shear off ?

[serek]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

Well DBG . . . had a thread running a couple of months or so back regarding this when it happened (sorry but can't link you to it  )

But bottom line is that there is now engine oil inside the bell housing. Oil drips from the 2 torx bolts at the bottom of the bell housing . Around 6-7 drips overnight after car has been running . Removing both   rubber bungs & putting a finger in there , finger comes out with engine oil on it . General thought on OOf is that engine oil can only get into the bell housing if the rear crank oil seal has failed

May just sell the car cheap  as it is  . . . . looks a bit to much of a job for me to do   & as car is sorned it is a problem to get it to Serek to do it 

Do car have any mot on it ?

[biggriffin]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

Well DBG . . . had a thread running a couple of months or so back regarding this when it happened (sorry but can't link you to it  )

But bottom line is that there is now engine oil inside the bell housing. Oil drips from the 2 torx bolts at the bottom of the bell housing . Around 6-7 drips overnight after car has been running . Removing both   rubber bungs & putting a finger in there , finger comes out with engine oil on it . General thought on OOf is that engine oil can only get into the bell housing if the rear crank oil seal has failed

May just sell the car cheap  as it is  . . . . looks a bit to much of a job for me to do   & as car is sorned it is a problem to get it to Serek to do it 

Is it estate or saloon, in rare silver?

[powerslinky]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

Well DBG . . . had a thread running a couple of months or so back regarding this when it happened (sorry but can't link you to it  )

But bottom line is that there is now engine oil inside the bell housing. Oil drips from the 2 torx bolts at the bottom of the bell housing . Around 6-7 drips overnight after car has been running . Removing both   rubber bungs & putting a finger in there , finger comes out with engine oil on it . General thought on OOf is that engine oil can only get into the bell housing if the rear crank oil seal has failed

May just sell the car cheap  as it is  . . . . looks a bit to much of a job for me to do   & as car is sorned it is a problem to get it to Serek to do it 

Is it estate or saloon, in rare silver?

3.2 MV6 saloon in BLACK not the very rare silver   

[powerslinky]

Daft question, how do you know it's the crank seal that's gone, what's the telltale signs? Not saying you're wrong, just intrigued what the symptoms are for a duff C/S seal, vs elsewhere, as engines tend to be smothered in old oil. (well, ok, mine is  )

Well DBG . . . had a thread running a couple of months or so back regarding this when it happened (sorry but can't link you to it  )

But bottom line is that there is now engine oil inside the bell housing. Oil drips from the 2 torx bolts at the bottom of the bell housing . Around 6-7 drips overnight after car has been running . Removing both   rubber bungs & putting a finger in there , finger comes out with engine oil on it . General thought on OOf is that engine oil can only get into the bell housing if the rear crank oil seal has failed

May just sell the car cheap  as it is  . . . . looks a bit to much of a job for me to do   & as car is sorned it is a problem to get it to Serek to do it 

Do car have any mot on it ?

Yes Serek MOT'd until May 2016

[Diamond Black Geezer]

No word back yet on my mate's motor. It was parked up off the main road in the neighbouring town, but I drove past yesterday and it wasn't there, so may have been sold. Will try and get hold of him soon as I can 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Oh, and Essex Big Al, you'll be pleased to hear that I too have two drips of oil from the two torq bolts at the bottom of the bell housing, too. 

So if you do attempt this, will be very gratefully watching his thread, and you know there's someone else out there who feels your pain