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[Diamond Black Geezer]

Replied on your other thread, Mr Jackv6 

The Omega is at that point in its life, whether we like it or not, where they will appear as drift cars, run what you brung bargain basement racedays, storage shed at the bottom of the garden, bangernomics machines (so until it fails an MoT, when it does, buy another) banger races, etc. Like the Carlton, Senator, VXs, Victors, Crestas, Ventoras, Veloxes and Wyverns before them.

I don't like seeing perfectly good Omegas (nicer nick than mine!) being stripped of their Bose, colours GID screens, engines, leather and the shells scrapped, but there's people on here who have done it for years, and will continue to do so. And I'm not knocking them one bit, either, without them I wouldn't have half the parts on my car now.

Here's a link you may have already seen, but which may serve as inspiration, OP  ...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130364.0


re: the 3 series, quite probably a good alternative/even a better bet for tuning; however, I would assume there'd be similar howls of disapproval on the Beemer forums of turning an 'ultimate driving machine' into a driftcar. Indeed, they may go so far as to advise the OP to buy such as an Omega instead of 'ruining' a 3 series. 

[05omegav6]

To answer DBGs point in the wanted post,

They used to be readily available when plod used them... and were selling for 25% of retail... trouble is the car park brigade knew this and as soon as they crashed or blew up a car, they'd simply buy another... unfortunately, about eight years ago, the supply stopped, and now there are next to none left... I know of only seven manual 3.2s in use, and five of them are restored/being restored as Plod, one has been extensively modified for track use, but is an estate, tother is a saloon.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

I have one! Not selling it, but just to reassure you that there are some in use... unless I'm one of the 7.
 And by in use I mean "undergoing a painfully slow resto"...

[Mr Gav]

I know of a manual 3.0 MV6 with LSD 

PM sent 

[05omegav6]

I have one! Not selling it, but just to reassure you that there are some in use... unless I'm one of the 7.
 And by in use I mean "undergoing a painfully slow resto"...

You are

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Why are the v6 manuals so damn rare i cant seem to find one anywhere on all the usual trusty car buying sites. It's seems like ever old grandad has snatched them off the assembly line and wont let go. Any tips advice or even knowlage on a v6 manual or what it takes to put a manual in an auto im lead to beleave they sit well with the f25? Might be wrong thanks for any help

Because the manual box is taken straight from a lorry.

I owned a manual Omega once........but never again.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

AH, now we're mentioning LSDs..... I wasn't going to tell the OP that some Omegas have LSDs...   


Re: Mr Al, indeed; and I do agree with you regarding the rarity of certain models. My mate has a (SORN) 3.0 manual Elite/MV6 Estate. Now that is a rare bugger! To see that scrapped or messed up and crashed would be a great shame. However, if we wander into just looking for any old V6, any trim level (which helps, everyone wants to buy and Elite/MV6, and no-one seems to care for lesser specs) and then look at sourcing a 'box a a later date, the op should be ok. Get a decent motor, decent engine, then look at a box swap. Safe to say there'll be plenty of trim and carpeting etc that'll be coming out at the same time, so the gearbox shouldn't be a major worry, even for a novice mechanic. But yes, to take a rare model and drift it to death would be a shame.  Take an unloved model, tailor it to the new owner's tastes and mod where wasnted, don't see any issue - 'should be reet'. 


Actually, there's one here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-omega-3-2-LSD-spares-repair-banger-/351634131821?hash=item51df070b6d:g:4x0AAOSw5dNWnktk

LSD, with all parts to convert to Manual!

[Mr Gav]

Nothing wrong with the omega manual box, it`s far better than the Shitroen Nemo box 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Nothing wrong with the omega manual box, it`s far better than the Shitroen Nemo box 

Mine had a throw like something from 'Ice road truckers'.......only not so smooth.

[ted_one]

Oooh!now let me think just might just have a couple of cars with LSD's on them, shame they're autos and I'm keeping them

[05omegav6]

Oooh!now let me think just might just have a couple of cars with LSD's on them, shame they're autos and I'm keeping them

Quite right too

[Diamond Black Geezer]

That's if the LSD function of the diff is still working after all these years. Probably worn out, now.


If it helps I'll take one of them LSDs off your hands, you know, free of charge and everything 

[Nick W]

If i coukd afford to insure a c20let conversion id just get a bmw haha your missing the point that i cant afford to do engine swaps and alike

Then you are going to be very disappointed with a large, heavy car fitted with a small V6, and I include the 3.0l in that. It's a well-judged combination for a smooth and comfortable road car, but has real limitations if your needs are different. Tuning the V6 is expensive and gives only small gains. An LET conversion to a basic 2.0l Omega is actually the affordable, straightforward route - it's a bolt together - to a fast Omega. As Al said, a manual, large engined 3 series is easy to find for less money than you would spend on a manual Omega. Upgrades(changes anyway!) to the whole car are plentiful and affordable. The small Lexus is another good choice for the same reasons. Either of those can be fitted with the company's V8 without too much aggro.


Oh, and roadcar LSDs are rarely sufficient for competition use; they tend to be quite weak and don't lock up very much. That's after you've found one as they are rare.

[106pete]

The auto box on the 3.0l isn't bad for low speed drifting, 1st gear will do 50mph and 2nd 90mph, the engine doesn't have enough guts to spin the 2nd gear but pump up the rear tyres in the wet and you may get it goin.

The gearbox won't change up on redline either if your selecting the gears, so you can hold it to the limiter all the time.

I've never properly drifted but from listening to friends just weld the diff, it's pretty much free and easily done.

If you just want a cheap drifter and scrap once your finished the omegas a great start, but that's all, there are no easy power increases, no off the shelf cheap loud exhaust, same with suspension.
The BMW is far more suited for drifting as you can add cheap/2nd hand parts easily.

[Jackv6]

AH, now we're mentioning LSDs..... I wasn't going to tell the OP that some Omegas have LSDs...   


Re: Mr Al, indeed; and I do agree with you regarding the rarity of certain models. My mate has a (SORN) 3.0 manual Elite/MV6 Estate. Now that is a rare bugger! To see that scrapped or messed up and crashed would be a great shame. However, if we wander into just looking for any old V6, any trim level (which helps, everyone wants to buy and Elite/MV6, and no-one seems to care for lesser specs) and then look at sourcing a 'box a a later date, the op should be ok. Get a decent motor, decent engine, then look at a box swap. Safe to say there'll be plenty of trim and carpeting etc that'll be coming out at the same time, so the gearbox shouldn't be a major worry, even for a novice mechanic. But yes, to take a rare model and drift it to death would be a shame.  Take an unloved model, tailor it to the new owner's tastes and mod where wasnted, don't see any issue - 'should be reet'. 


Actually, there's one here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-omega-3-2-LSD-spares-repair-banger-/351634131821?hash=item51df070b6d:g:4x0AAOSw5dNWnktk


LSD, with all parts to convert to Manual!

Wow i think iv found my car even if i dont swap it its got mot and manual thank you sir ill look into it.

And to everyone else iv already looked into beemers that was my first port of call but for a 19 year old the insuramce is about 1500 for a weak engine where as a 3.0 v6 is 900 god knows what insurance companies are thinking but its the truth