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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #15 on: 17 February 2016, 19:05:47 »

2 electric fires will be too much regardless of wound or unwound. :o
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #16 on: 17 February 2016, 19:06:46 »

Always fully unwind, even if within specs quoted (because the cable used is usually borderline).

Those that remember "the incident" will have seen the pics, and won't be surprised to know that one set of forensics went straight for a coiled extention lead that they managed to prove was plugged in but nothing plugged in it, but unable to prove if switched on.
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #17 on: 17 February 2016, 19:09:18 »

and didnt want to be cold in the man cave  ::)
Have you checked with your quack about that, as you're not that old, and its hardly been cold this year.

Obviously, if you're on morphrin or high aspirin doses, ignore me, and buy more jumpers ;D
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #18 on: 17 February 2016, 19:11:18 »

2 electric fires will be too much regardless of wound or unwound. :o

Well 1 fan heater to take the chill off with an electric light heater but then i turn the fan heater off once its warm  :-[ But now i know not to do that or put on an extra coat and not go in there with me slippers on  ;D
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #19 on: 17 February 2016, 19:13:15 »

and didnt want to be cold in the man cave  ::)
Have you checked with your quack about that, as you're not that old, and its hardly been cold this year.

Obviously, if you're on morphrin or high aspirin doses, ignore me, and buy more jumpers ;D

Docs ! Yeah he does know , i always have the heat on highest setting in the car and thats too hot for most  :)
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #20 on: 17 February 2016, 19:14:48 »

2 electric fires will be too much regardless of wound or unwound. :o

Well 1 fan heater to take the chill off with an electric light heater but then i turn the fan heater off once its warm  :-[ But now i know not to do that or put on an extra coat and not go in there with me slippers on  ;D
I suspect the fan heater is at least 2KW, and light heater at least 1KW.

If doing that, run them from separate extension leads, ideally from separate ring mains.
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #21 on: 17 February 2016, 19:17:16 »

2 electric fires will be too much regardless of wound or unwound. :o

Well 1 fan heater to take the chill off with an electric light heater but then i turn the fan heater off once its warm  :-[ But now i know not to do that or put on an extra coat and not go in there with me slippers on  ;D
I suspect the fan heater is at least 2KW, and light heater at least 1KW.

If doing that, run them from separate extension leads, ideally from separate ring mains.

I did look and noted that i was exceeding the coiled limit but should be ok uncoiled , ill leave it uncoiled anyway .. possibly a burnt down man cave avoided as it tripped while i nipped inside and left the heaters on  :o , phew !
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #22 on: 17 February 2016, 19:39:41 »

You might burn it down anyway if you get remotely close to what they claim it can handle, esp if it was a consumer oriented product.

I would be cautious going much above 2Kw if it claime it can do 3120W
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #23 on: 17 February 2016, 20:13:48 »

You might burn it down anyway if you get remotely close to what they claim it can handle, esp if it was a consumer oriented product.

I would be cautious going much above 2Kw if it claime it can do 3120W

Thats what the uncoiled rate is  :)
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #24 on: 18 February 2016, 00:28:35 »

Always fully unwind, even if within specs quoted (because the cable used is usually borderline).

Those that remember "the incident" will have seen the pics, and won't be surprised to know that one set of forensics went straight for a coiled extention lead that they managed to prove was plugged in but nothing plugged in it, but unable to prove if switched on.
plugged in, coiled, switched on but nothing plugged in to it is ok isn't it?
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #25 on: 18 February 2016, 00:48:46 »

migmog, without any current drawn it is perfectly safe. The heating comes from the current heating up the cable due to its resistance. The thinner the cable - as in some cheapo reels - the higher the resitance and hence the greater the heat and, as has been stated earlier, if the cable is coiled on the reel, the heat can hardly escape, so melt-down!
Similarly, the greater the current drawn (approx. 4 amps per kilowatt on mains voltage), the greater the heat generated.
Best practice is ALWAYS to unreel fully, but if I've only got my battery charger on my reel (probably drawing less than 1/2 Amp) I unreel only what I need to reach the car.

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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #26 on: 18 February 2016, 17:45:16 »

Always fully unwind, even if within specs quoted (because the cable used is usually borderline).

Those that remember "the incident" will have seen the pics, and won't be surprised to know that one set of forensics went straight for a coiled extention lead that they managed to prove was plugged in but nothing plugged in it, but unable to prove if switched on.
plugged in, coiled, switched on but nothing plugged in to it is ok isn't it?
That's what I always thought, but the fire brigade were adamant otherwise, if left on at the mains. Whether that's simply due to their experience and the crap nature of those cheapo Jo-Jo type reels.....
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #27 on: 18 February 2016, 17:47:01 »

You might burn it down anyway if you get remotely close to what they claim it can handle, esp if it was a consumer oriented product.

I would be cautious going much above 2Kw if it claime it can do 3120W

Thats what the uncoiled rate is  :)
I guessed that, so as I said, I'd not be pulling more than a couple of killawatts (ie, one fan SMALL heater) with it fully unwound, given that its quite old, and I suspect cheap to begin with ;)
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #28 on: 18 February 2016, 19:16:59 »

Always fully unwind, even if within specs quoted (because the cable used is usually borderline).

Those that remember "the incident" will have seen the pics, and won't be surprised to know that one set of forensics went straight for a coiled extention lead that they managed to prove was plugged in but nothing plugged in it, but unable to prove if switched on.
plugged in, coiled, switched on but nothing plugged in to it is ok isn't it?
That's what I always thought, but the fire brigade were adamant otherwise, if left on at the mains. Whether that's simply due to their experience and the crap nature of those cheapo Jo-Jo type reels.....
..or the fact that they are experts in putting out fires and not electrical engineering. ;)
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Re: Extention Lead
« Reply #29 on: 20 February 2016, 10:00:07 »

Always fully unwind, even if within specs quoted (because the cable used is usually borderline).

Those that remember "the incident" will have seen the pics, and won't be surprised to know that one set of forensics went straight for a coiled extention lead that they managed to prove was plugged in but nothing plugged in it, but unable to prove if switched on.
plugged in, coiled, switched on but nothing plugged in to it is ok isn't it?
That's what I always thought, but the fire brigade were adamant otherwise, if left on at the mains. Whether that's simply due to their experience and the crap nature of those cheapo Jo-Jo type reels.....
..or the fact that they are experts in putting out fires and not electrical engineering. ;)
These weren't the mob with the hoses, though possibly at one time they were. I had immediate respect for the first one to arrive (as the brigade were just damping down the last of the flames) as he was a spitting image of MDTM, in looks, mannerism, speech and size/build.  Clearly twins separated at birth...  ...or Mr DTM's father has a few secrets ;D
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