Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[raywilb]

for the past few weeks my key been getting quite difficult to turn in the ignition. it happened in my last mig, and I had to  change the barrel. what I cant remember is where I got a new barrel from. I suppose it was the dealers, or can I quote the key number & go elsewhere.

[Lazydocker]

Search the guides... I'm sure Mark did one for tidying up the tumblers to cure this

[terry paget]

Best do it before it won't turn any more; then you have a problem. Follow the guide, it's great fun; keep the tumblers carefully in order. If you interchange them you, even with the same numbers, you will find you cannot turn it.

[raywilb]

for the past few weeks my key been getting quite difficult to turn in the ignition. it happened in my last mig, and I had to  change the barrel. what I cant remember is where I got a new barrel from. I suppose it was the dealers, or can I quote the key number & go elsewhere.

  I priced one up at stealers this morning, was told £ 65 + vat. I could not order as v5 + car pass was needed.

Search the guides... I'm sure Mark did one for tidying up the tumblers to cure this

  will follow guide on Monday if it does some good I will save myself £78 

[Shackeng]

http://www.nwkeys.co.uk/Portal.aspx?page=43&cat=131&prod=7389

New tumblers avlbl here.

[Nick W]

If you're not worried about the key matching, then a new barrel is about a tenner.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Short term solution which may save you a lot of bother and swear words, is to pop the barrel out, and remove several of the sliders. Yes, technically your car is less secure, but any thief still can't start the car, and if they're sitting in your car seat then it's kind of already 'too late'.

This can remove the 6 hours of screaming and hammering to remove the old jammed barrel, because in order to remove the barrel, you need to turn the key to position II. 

[raywilb]

Short term solution which may save you a lot of bother and swear words, is to pop the barrel out, and remove several of the sliders. Yes, technically your car is less secure, but any thief still can't start the car, and if they're sitting in your car seat then it's kind of already 'too late'.

This can remove the 6 hours of screaming and hammering to remove the old jammed barrel, because in order to remove the barrel, you need to turn the key to position II. 

  I may end up doing that, was going to attempt it today. I know its a pig of a job when it jams. did a td mig a few years ago

[raywilb]

Search the guides... I'm sure Mark did one for tidying up the tumblers to cure this

all done now   I was at it before six this morning, I followed Marks  guide to  the T & apart from the barrel not wanting  to come out at first all went well. another great guide. 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

glad you're sorted. Did you replace the levers etc?

[raywilb]

glad you're sorted. Did you replace the levers etc?

  no , just a good clean with white spirit & gave tumblers a rub on a smooth emery stone. I did however notice one tumbler didn't sit back in right & appeared ever so slightly bent. a gentle tap with a hammer on a flat surface cured that. finished it by giving a light spray with white grease. now works perfect 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I found it a chronic pain to refit the levers in mine, when I disassembled it, solely to make a 'map' of what numbered levers I required. So you're doing better than me. 

[terry paget]

I've done two. First time I followed the guide to the letter, went perfectly. Second time I got careless, and merely recorded what numbers went where. Reassembled, lock wouldn't turn. Removed some of the tumblers, then it worked. Next time I shall be more careful.

[Shackeng]

glad you're sorted. Did you replace the levers etc?

  no , just a good clean with white spirit & gave tumblers a rub on a smooth emery stone. I did however notice one tumbler didn't sit back in right & appeared ever so slightly bent. a gentle tap with a hammer on a flat surface cured that. finished it by giving a light spray with white grease. now works perfect 

Experience tells us that the existing tumblers are worn, and likely this fault will recur. New tumblers cost pennies from the link I posted above.

[Nick W]

Experience tells us that the existing tumblers are worn, and likely this fault will recur. New tumblers cost pennies from the link I posted above.

That's my experience too. And considering what an absolute pain in the arse a jammed ignition lock is, spending a few quid on new components is the only sensible solution.


I've mentioned this before, but seized ignition barrels are a common problem at this time of year as the temperature increases.