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[Kostas]

Hiya guys just a quick question, I'm thinking of putting a 3.2 lump into my 2.6 manual estate I have, am I right on thinking the gearbox is going to line up correctly ? I am using my manual box. Also if I use the 3.2 ecu will that work correctly as the 3.2 is auto box and my one is manual box. Thanks

[tigers_gonads]

You will need these parts for the engine from the mail dealer but check the part numbers are correct before handing any money over 

Spigot needle bearing    90105743 
Spigot nylon bush          9157141

The 3.2 engines ecu will need a reprogram via a Tech 2 afterwards to get rid of the fault light but it will drive okay until you get that done.
The 2.6's ABS / TC ecu may need a tweak via a Tech 2 so that it knows it has a 3.2 under the bonnet.

[Kostas]

Thanks alot for that, so basically all the tweaking can be done via tech 2 and should not need a full ecu re map? ( I know you basically just said that but I'm just making sure I'm understand it right lol)

[05omegav6]

Use the 3.2 ECU, immobilser ring and key chips... ideally also the car pass for the engine, and swap the loom from the 2.6 to the 3.2... Electrically they are the same, but manual loom has only reverse switch loom to gearbox, whereas auto one will need modifying to fit the manual reverse light switch,(auto one is switched through selector and also has an extra plug by the battery)

[Kostas]

yeah but i'm keeping the manual box so as i prefer a manual over auto so i shouldn't need to swap over the looms. if i'm thinking this right

[05omegav6]

yeah but i'm keeping the manual box so as i prefer a manual over auto so i shouldn't need to swap over the looms. if i'm thinking this right

Current set up:
2.6 engine
Manual fly wheel.
Manual box.
2.6 loom
2.6 ecu, immobiliser, key chip.

New set up:
3.2 engine
Manual flywheel
Manual box
2.6 loom
3.2 ecu, immobilser, key chip (ideally plus car pass for reprogramming chips for all your keys.)

Hopefully as clear as can be made.

[Kostas]

yes mate cant be any clearer than that, thank you very much. now just need to find a 3.2 omega somewhere

[serek]

yes mate cant be any clearer than that, thank you very much. now just need to find a 3.2 omega somewhere

if you want  have 2 or 3 good 3.2v6 engines here

[Kostas]

o yes but how much would you like for one?

[zirk]

Thanks alot for that, so basically all the tweaking can be done via tech 2 and should not need a full ecu re map? ( I know you basically just said that but I'm just making sure I'm understand it right lol)

The ECU's from a 3.2 Manual (Ex Police) do have a different Internal Map compared to the Standard 3.2 Auto ECU, wither it was a Police thing or just changes to a generic Map to suit the Manual Gearbox for the 3.2 weve yet to discover, but as Al says changing or modifying the Looms will sort out the gearbox side.

Probably easier to get hold of a 3.2 Estate and put a Manual box in it, imho. Probably need to sort out diff ratio as well though.

Were the 2.6 Manuals and 3.2 Manuals same diff ratio?

[05omegav6]

Thanks alot for that, so basically all the tweaking can be done via tech 2 and should not need a full ecu re map? ( I know you basically just said that but I'm just making sure I'm understand it right lol)

The ECU's from a 3.2 Manual (Ex Police) do have a different Internal Map compared to the Standard 3.2 Auto ECU, wither it was a Police thing or just changes to a generic Map to suit the Manual Gearbox for the 3.2 weve yet to discover, but as Al says changing or modifying the Looms will sort out the gearbox side.

Probably easier to get hold of a 3.2 Estate and put a Manual box in it, imho. Probably need to sort out diff ratio as well though.

Were the 2.6 Manuals and 3.2 Manuals same diff ratio?

According to brochure, both 2.6 Manual and 3.2 Auto use a 3.90:1 diff  so will be fine as an engine/drivetrain combo. Won't quite have the top end of a plod 3.2 manual, but will be a smidgen quicker off the mark... be looking at about 2900rpm at 75mph

Officially diff ratios are:

2.6 Manual 3.90:1
2.6 Auto 4.22:1

3.2 Manual 3.70:1
3.2 Auto 3.90:1

[Kostas]

ah i see so in the future might be worth getting a manual 3.2 diff then i see

[05omegav6]

ah i see so in the future might be worth getting a manual 3.2 diff then i see

I wouldn't make it a priority

[Kostas]

yeah i wasn't going to, although how hard is it to change diff seals on half shafts? i'm a mechanic so skills are there just not the knowledge 

[05omegav6]

yeah i wasn't going to, although how hard is it to change diff seals on half shafts? i'm a mechanic so skills are there just not the knowledge 

Six bolts, and some leverage to remove/refit shatfts, sealks pry out and are lightly pressed in, so pretty straightforward