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[MarkG]

I've always liked vauxhalls. That is up to about 5 years ago. Probably stems back to my Dad's 1980s Cavaliers. I loved my own 1987 Astra and 1986 Cavalier. Then my 1997 Veccy and now my 2000 V6 Mig which I shall drive until it gives up on me.

But more recently, what is there from the Vauxhall line-up which you would really want to own? (apart from a Holden Monaro of course but that does not really count). I was just met by a colleague at Warsaw airport in an Opel Antara. I'd never heard of this compact 4 wheel drive ugly duckling. So I just googled it and believe it or not it is available in the UK as a Vauxhall. It's the ugliest thing you ever did see and being driven in it is terrible. Even the guy who owned it didn't like it!

There are rumours that the new Vectra might look OK but on recent form I'm not confident that Vauxhall can design a decent looking car any more.  

So as a marker of a car's following and status, who thinks there anything from the current vauxhall range which might generate enough interest to support a forum as active as this one?

[albitz]

i agree,apart from the monaro,none of the current range would interest me.

[bertiecbx550]

yep me!!! i`ve just changred the thermastat on my friends calibra and now the ruddy fan wont kick in!!! so it looks like he now needs a new fan relay.....unless anyone else can think of sumat else causing the problem??

[HerefordElite]

Interestingly on this weeks TopGear Clarkson said that Vaux were the only make to not have an ugly model in the range

[Andy B]

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So I just googled it and believe it or not it is available in the UK as a Vauxhall. It's the ugliest thing you ever did see and being driven in it is terrible. Even the guy who owned it didn't like it!  ....

It's been available for a few years, although I've only ever seen the odd few. Coincidently I saw one yesterday being driven to the local dealers

[Andy B]

Interestingly on this weeks TopGear Clarkson said that Vaux were the only make to not have an ugly model in the range

I wonder if he's never seen the latest incarnation of the Courser then?!
 :-?

[MarkG]

ooohhh - hang on. I just went to vauxhall's website. The new Insignia does actually look pretty OK. This must be Vectra replacement.

[Vamps]

ooohhh - hang on. I just went to vauxhall's website. The new Insignia does actually look pretty OK. This must be Vectra replacement.

[Vamps]

ooohhh - hang on. I just went to vauxhall's website. The new Insignia does actually look pretty OK. This must be Vectra replacement.

Is that the one that looks like the Honda :question

[Jay w]

there is very little in the 'normal' car market that 'floats my boat' these days

BMW looks like Merc, or worse still like a noddy car
Audi look like Jap cars these days
Jap cars look bland and unexciting
Renault have the award for the most ugliest looking cars out there currently
the new insignia looks like everything else out there on the road, nothing separates it from everything else

and that's the problem, we are getting to a point now where all cars are starting to look the same, no one is prepared to stick their head up from underneath the design parapit and be bold and different

well there is one car that has tried



there is nothing like it on the road having borrowed one for a weekend on trial i can honestly say they look unique, drive superbly and have more feature than you can shake a dirty stick at.
and they are reliable, despite what people say

[blue222]

It might look nice but so does the latest Vectra. If it drives as crap as the Vectra and if the indicators are as useless and if it pours rainwater on your luggage everytime you open a wet tailgate and if the 1.9CDTi [150] auto is so dangerously hesitant when you put your foot down into a gap on a roundabout and many other things i hate it for then I'm going back to Fords or I might even look at a Skoda. What am I thinking? I'll get another Omega and run it into the ground.  Now where's my inhaler.....?

[blue222]

there is very little in the 'normal' car market that 'floats my boat' these days

BMW looks like Merc, or worse still like a noddy car
Audi look like Jap cars these days
Jap cars look bland and unexciting
Renault have the award for the most ugliest looking cars out there currently
the new insignia looks like everything else out there on the road, nothing separates it from everything else

and that's the problem, we are getting to a point now where all cars are starting to look the same, no one is prepared to stick their head up from underneath the design parapit and be bold and different

well there is one car that has tried



there is nothing like it on the road having borrowed one for a weekend on trial i can honestly say they look unique, drive superbly and have more feature than you can shake a dirty stick at.
and they are reliable, despite what people say

Nice thought about the Citroen, but the XM looked as stylish as that some years ago and who'd touch one one now?

[Vamps]

there is very little in the 'normal' car market that 'floats my boat' these days

BMW looks like Merc, or worse still like a noddy car
Audi look like Jap cars these days
Jap cars look bland and unexciting
Renault have the award for the most ugliest looking cars out there currently
the new insignia looks like everything else out there on the road, nothing separates it from everything else

and that's the problem, we are getting to a point now where all cars are starting to look the same, no one is prepared to stick their head up from underneath the design parapit and be bold and different

well there is one car that has tried



there is nothing like it on the road having borrowed one for a weekend on trial i can honestly say they look unique, drive superbly and have more feature than you can shake a dirty stick at.
and they are reliable, despite what people say

Nice thought about the Citroen, but the XM looked as stylish as that some years ago and who'd touch one one now?

Me.....................

[albitz]

i think the problem from our point of view is not so much the looks as the fact that vauxhall (along with ford and probably other high volume manufacturers) decided to get out of the luxury end of the car market .they have a long history of having a large,comfy rwd flagship model (which they probably lost money on), but the bean counters probably conviced the marketing men that the brand could survive without such a car.so for people like us ,who buy these cars, usually after they have lost most of thier value,there is,nt anything that we can look forward to buying in 6 or 7 years time for a fraction of what some relatively wealthy person or company paid for it from the showroom.

[blue222]

I'd just like to put a word in for the humble Holden Commodore. We see the VXR8, and I for one might be tempted by one   if circumstances permitted, but there is a whole range behind it that Vauxhall could tap into.

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/vehicleentry?vehicleid=4

A 3.6 V6 Commodore should be the ideal replacement for an Omega. And there are 6.0 models to be had for much less $$ than the Clubsport R8/VXR8.

Why can't the Vx bosses try some of these out? I'm sure they'd sell some if they were priced attractively.