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[Varche]

Saw this on the Uk news today. My view is it is endemic and will only get worse. Why would a person who is so attached to their phone (that they use it rather than talk face to face with people ) not use one whilst driving?  The only solution is a step leap in technology to have phones implanted.

It is a huge problem in Spain too. Yesterday I did two not very scientific surveys of 30 passing cars in town in a 30 limit.

Mobile phones. 5 talking and one texting.

No seat belts .9  If you are coming to Spain now the cops are rightly having a clampdown on seat belts including cameras.

[STEMO]

About time too. But it's the same question as always: What are the chances of being caught?

[biggriffin]

Saw this on the Uk news today. My view is it is endemic and will only get worse. Why would a person who is so attached to their phone (that they use it rather than talk face to face with people ) not use one whilst driving?  The only solution is a step leap in technology to have phones implanted.

It is a huge problem in Spain too. Yesterday I did two not very scientific surveys of 30 passing cars in town in a 30 limit.

Mobile phones. 5 talking and one texting.

No seat belts .9  If you are coming to Spain now the cops are rightly having a clampdown on seat belts including cameras.

They also get upset if they stop you and your wearing flip flops.

[Varche]

Quite right too. And arms hanging out of window.

Our police are exempt of course. No seat belts, cigarette in one hand and brandy in the other...

[Toledodude1973]

Is operating a sat nav whilst moving the same offence?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Texting while driving should be punishable by summary execution. I saw a woman doing it the other day and she was driving as though she had drunk a bottle of vodka.
It will keep getting worse though as everyone knows that policing of our roads consists only of speed cameras nowadays.

[frostbite]

You what the problem is?













Facebook  I dont use it, not because im sad but I dont think the world needs to know I'm on the bog  doing number two or that I have seen a school boy fall off his bike

[Ever Ready]

Is operating a sat nav whilst moving the same offence?

I do believe it is, also more than likely adjusted while checking ar$e book status

[TD]

Is operating a sat nav whilst moving the same offence?

I do believe it is, also more than likely adjusted while checking ar$e book status

I would have thought it would be same as a phone attached to a phone holder, occasional taps of the screen is allowed, I believe.

[biggriffin]

Is operating a sat nav whilst moving the same offence?

I do believe it is, also more than likely adjusted while checking ar$e book status

I would have thought it would be same as a phone attached to a phone holder, occasional taps of the screen is allowed, I believe.

Jasonm report to gen discussion. Were is he still on sick.

[Doctor Gollum]

Button presses are allowed, holding something is not

However if you crash whilst pressing a button, be it the climate panel/radio/ipod/sunroof etc, and this distraction is proven to be a factor then you can expect a careless/due care charge...

As ever though, the media have done a wonderful job of sensationalising an issue... in both the Sun and Daily fail, they ran pictures of people in vehicles doing various hand held things with the suggestion that they were all travelling at 60-70 mph.

Of the six pictures shown, two were trucks (size indeterminate due to cropping, but both Paccar cabs, so 7.5t or bigger) which shouldn't be travelling at more than 56mph... and two were vans (Iveco Dailys iirc, so probably 3.5t) and therefore speeding.

Point is, doing anything other than driving whilst driving creates a distraction, which influences the reaction times. This is not news. Inattentive or inappropriate behaviour alone are what causes potentially fatal crashes. This is why autonomous cars are the holy grail of automotive development... they won't be distracted by facebook updates of screaming children, or watching telly in the middle lane of the M20.

[zirk]

Button presses are allowed, holding something is not

However if you crash whilst pressing a button, be it the climate panel/radio/ipod/sunroof etc, and this distraction is proven to be a factor then you can expect a careless/due care charge...

As ever though, the media have done a wonderful job of sensationalising an issue... in both the Sun and Daily fail, they ran pictures of people in vehicles doing various hand held things with the suggestion that they were all travelling at 60-70 mph.

Of the six pictures shown, two were trucks (size indeterminate due to cropping, but both Paccar cabs, so 7.5t or bigger) which shouldn't be travelling at more than 56mph... and two were vans (Iveco Dailys iirc, so probably 3.5t) and therefore speeding.

Point is, doing anything other than driving whilst driving creates a distraction, which influences the reaction times. This is not news. Inattentive or inappropriate behaviour alone are what causes potentially fatal crashes. This is why autonomous cars are the holy grail of automotive development... they won't be distracted by facebook updates of screaming children, or watching telly in the middle lane of the M20.

I thought they were trying to up the antie now and introduce a posible Driving Ban if caught using a Mobile Phone in the Hand / Ear.

Cant remember where I heard  / read it now though.

[Doctor Gollum]

Commercial drivers already get double penalties...