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[aaronjb]

Modern systems are less intrusive at the point of having to adjust engine power (but all too often too intrusive as when the system begins to activate).

The Skoda makes it feel as though a driveshaft has just let go (enormous BANG and momentary loss of motive force followed by resumption of FWD scrabble).. I think I preferred the over zealous FL Omega TC stamping on the rear brakes..

[Mr Gav]

Modern systems are less intrusive at the point of having to adjust engine power (but all too often too intrusive as when the system begins to activate).

The Skoda makes it feel as though a driveshaft has just let go (enormous BANG and momentary loss of motive force followed by resumption of FWD scrabble).. I think I preferred the over zealous FL Omega TC stamping on the rear brakes..

The Nissan system isn`t much better and there is a lot of criticism of it on the forums as it just cuts power rather than trying to control it. One of the remaps has a 10 stage traction control function added which apparently is far better than the standard system.

[anV6]

Funny thing.... I used to think OOF was a place where people came to talk about Omegas.  Now it seems that it's a place where people come to get abuse for wanting to talk about Omegas. 

It's puzzling, isn't it? But it's alright. Skin is quite thick.

[anV6]

Funny thing.... I used to think OOF was a place where people came to talk about Omegas.  Now it seems that it's a place where people come to get abuse for wanting to talk about Omegas. 

I agree with you there Sir Tigger, while he might rattle on a bit he's not doing any harm 

I only rattle on because I'm a persistent fellow. I know what I'm after is difficult to find. You have to keep tackling it from different angles to try to crack it and absolutely must keep the motivation up. 

But I thank people such as yourself and the others who still try to help. Very much appreciated.

But why, or why did you change your avatar? It made the whole thread brighter and easier to look at.

[anV6]

MFL safety features are not retrofittable back to a PFL.  Obviously, whilst nothing is impossible, it would be too impractical to try.

As to the TC functionality, PFL just cuts engine, MFL/FL try to brake the spinning wheel, and if unsuccessful, cuts engine power.  The difference is quite useful if you have any ability and feeling of the chassis, but if you are lazy/slow/stupid, both feel like somebody has chained it to the road.  Modern systems are less intrusive at the point of having to adjust engine power (but all too often too intrusive as when the system begins to activate). The PFL system is far more reliable, as the MFL/FL V6 ABS unit has a known reliability issue with its ECU.

It's a real pity.

The TC doesn't really worry me. It seems the PFL system would still at least prevent unnecessary wheel spin in the rain? Honestly I would probably leave it off unless raining etc or if I have my child in the car.

What I miss the most are the side airbags as I think they could also help the rear occupants in the case of a side collision. If I could at least retrofit that I would already be happy. But I already suspected it wouldn't be an easy task. So I guess that's out.

[Doctor Gollum]

A bit of research goes along way

No Omega was ever fitted with rear airbags

And TC doesn't work over 80kph besides it is always on, and you have to turn it off not tother way  round...

Bwtfdik.

[zirk]

Why dont you just buy a Shell and make it up add the bits as you go along 

[TheBoy]

And TC doesn't work over 80kph

/Panto on

Oh yes it does

/Panto off


Not that I'd ever of tried something. Not me. No way. Never.  But it definitely works when in 3 digit speeds...  ...and not km/h

[anV6]

A bit of research goes along way

No Omega was ever fitted with rear airbags

And TC doesn't work over 80kph besides it is always on, and you have to turn it off not tother way  round...

Bwtfdik.

Gollum, I know no Omega was ever fitted with rear airbags. What I meant was, I think the side airbags, the ones in the front seats, would also help the rear occupants a bit in case of a side collision. At least better than without it. Unless of course the seats are ejected from it's place or something.

And what do you mean by the TC being always on and not the other way around? You mean that I would have to turn it off every time I start the car and it won't stay off once I turn the car off?

[TheBoy]

Omega side airbags will have no effect on rear seat passengers - they blow forwards.

TC is re-enabled at every start.

[anV6]

Why dont you just buy a Shell and make it up add the bits as you go along 

If merely retrofitting safety features to the PFL is such a daunting task, I would think what you propose would be close to missing impossible. 

[anV6]

And TC doesn't work over 80kph

/Panto on

Oh yes it does

/Panto off


Not that I'd ever of tried something. Not me. No way. Never.  But it definitely works when in 3 digit speeds...  ...and not km/h

I would have thought TC worked at every speed. I know the snow function works only till a certain speed. But I guess only the automatic cars have it?  But I would think TC is just as useful over 80kph.

[YZ250]

And TC doesn't work over 80kph

/Panto on

Oh yes it does

/Panto off


Not that I'd ever of tried something. Not me. No way. Never.  But it definitely works when in 3 digit speeds...  ...and not km/h

 

I've seen the TC light flashing when a fast run through a sweeping bend caught the nearside tyres on wet leaves. 

[TheBoy]

Why dont you just buy a Shell and make it up add the bits as you go along 

If merely retrofitting safety features to the PFL is such a daunting task, I would think what you propose would be close to missing impossible. 

It might actually be easier, as you could get all the right looms in place then....    ....though removing a loom from an Omega without damage is pretty challenging.

[anV6]

Omega side airbags will have no effect on rear seat passengers - they blow forwards.

TC is re-enabled at every start.

They blow forward? Interesting. I thought they would blow out centered at the front seat, meaning half of the air ball would be covering the front and half covering the back. If only forward then indeed it wouldn't offer any extra protection to the rear seats.

Are there any videos showing the safety of the Omega by the way? Showing the airbags deploying etc? I looked for it but didn't find anything.