Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[anV6]

Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.

I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.

We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure.  RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.

I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.

We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure.  RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.

Really ??!!!

[anV6]

Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.

I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.

We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure.  RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.

Really ??!!!

Yep.

Ok, left in the dust is a bit hyperbole. 

But the Steinmetz was quicker than the AMG E50, BMW M5 and Schnitzer BMW for example.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

What mods did Steinmetz make to the engines then ? 

[anV6]

What mods did Steinmetz make to the engines then ? 

They had several versions. From a simply chipped diesel, to turbo, to supercharged etc. When you consider the AMG E50 for example is a 5.0 V8 with around 350bhp, it's not shabby at all for the Omega to beat it.

[ted_one]

Never going to be any sort of classic,unless there's a shed of the week award being handed out,   of all the shows that I attended with the ABS last summer.....guess who's omegas were there?,mine and James Waddington's, and one of those is a fully liveried police car. I believe there were one or two at Billing which due to man flu I didn't attend,but I had already prepped the R8 in readiness,so no Omega from me there if I had gone. classic very unlikely imo.

[anV6]

Never going to be any sort of classic,unless there's a shed of the week award being handed out,   of all the shows that I attended with the ABS last summer.....guess who's omegas were there?,mine and James Waddington's, and one of those is a fully liveried police car. I believe there were one or two at Billing which due to man flu I didn't attend,but I had already prepped the R8 in readiness,so no Omega from me there if I had gone. classic very unlikely imo.

I believe it can reach the same status as older RWD Opels and Vaxhalls like the Monza, older Carlton, Rekord etc have reached for sure. It's just way too new for that yet. Even the 80's Carlton/Omega A are.

[anV6]

To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. 

[ted_one]

When you find the car you are looking for,will you undertake a round trip of 200 miles to attend a club breakfast meet or a similar or longer journey to show your car?.Because I have racked up over 3k in the 5 month summer season of shows, and I can say now the only OOF member at those shows was the aforementioned Mr Waddington.Does this not flag up a major reason why the Omega isn't going to make it? I have three Omegas and the guys that know the cars will tell you that they are in good shape and because of that I'm constantly getting messages on FB and PM's on here to sell them...but all for the wrong reasons....take time, have a think as to what will happen to them,they will take that one way trip across the Irish sea and all the efforts/time and a considerable amount of money that has flowed under the Omega bridge will end up in clouds of rubber smoke and a LSD with a serious survival problem, and then on to a muddy death in some Irish scrap yard,or in the case of my first Omega...a Polish scrap yard. And that's why the Omega is going to struggle even to be remembered as the Vauxhall that nearly made classic status.......sorry...trying to give up negativity for '17.....struggling atm

[Nick W]

To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. 

I doubt any of us will live that long.

[ted_one]

Just to add, I think that if the car does make it to the point of preservation then there's only going to be a small number of survivors which I would agree then they could be classed as classics. The big but is that they are getting cubed at a serious rate of knots and if the example of a perfectly good 51 plate Elite on FB today being used for banger racing,and then the guy is now offering bits of it for free.....think Serek is after a bit himself.So there you go another one going to the big Omega scrap yard in the sky,when they're gone they're gone so to say. Thank you for your comments Mr W

[anV6]

To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. 

I doubt any of us will live that long.

How long do you figure could take? I doubt anybody in the 80's were going around saying 80's Escort and Fiestas would be classics. Yet, 30 years later...

So the Omega's turn might come and I might not even be 60 then. I'm counting on still being around.

[Nick W]

To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. 

I doubt any of us will live that long.

How long do you figure could take? I doubt anybody in the 80's were going around saying 80's Escort and Fiestas would be classics. Yet, 30 years later...

So the Omega's turn might come and I might not even be 60 then. I'm counting on still being around.

Omegas have no image to make them attractive as a short term, let alone a long term bet, and are currently worth nothing. In thirty years the couple of dozen survivors will be just like all the big Vauxhalls of the sixties and seventies are now: a curiosity. Even the Lotus Carlton hasn't lifted the profile of ordinary Carltons/Senators.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

What a depressing thread.... There is Migv6 sharing a Omega 3.2 Elite for sale, Not long after this thread has turned into something else.   

Re.. The car for sale, Looks nice enough, Just a shame about the colour. Could make someone a nice car though.

Re.. The classic status. I personally believe the Omega (mainly the 3.0/3.2 Elite/MV6) will reach a similar classic status to the Carlton GSi / Senator 3.0 24v... No idea about the Omega 2.0s, 2.2s, 2.5s, 2.6s cd, cdx etc... Time will tell...

Als on a sidenote... It is odd how the Vauxhall heritage center with the vast amount of cars they have there including a Vectra B they do not have one Omega.... Nor does Vauxhall/Opel seem to acknowledge the existence of the Omega in their social media posts (Throwback pictures, history etc...)

[ted_one]

Exactly what we're trying to project,and in a way you have partly hit the nail on the head,I also mooched around the VX Heritage centre a couple of times thinking that I had missed their example,obviously not worthy of being an exhibit.So if the manufacturer of the Omega is on the surface is almost ignoring its existence, then where will the recognition come from??
Answer is obvious....on here of course, and again you need to go to the shows to see wether the general public are interested in the Omega,