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[Doctor Gollum]

That's the trouble, often you have no idea what has/hasn't been done previously... at least the overall state of a prospective vehicle gives you a clue, but if it's just the engine you buy you really are in the lap of the Gods

On a plus note, at least you were expecting it to fail at some point

[X30XE]

I was pondering this yesterday.  The only true advantage of having a brand new car is that you, (have the opportunity to at least), know what has and has not been done to it at a very early point in it's life.  Buying new guarantees you nothing else mind. 

[Viral_Jim]

I was pondering this yesterday.  The only true advantage of having a brand new car is that you, (have the opportunity to at least), know what has and has not been done to it at a very early point in it's life.  Buying new guarantees you nothing else mind.

Now let's be fair, of course it does. It also guarantees you losing a boat load of cash on your purchase 

[X30XE]

  Unless it's a Porsche Macan/Ferrari/Aston... 

[anV6]

I was given the suggestion of going fully bespoke a few times here, in order to get to the car I want.

Well, today I stumbled on something that might be a good opportunity for that.

It's a low mileage 2003 3.2 Omega. But it's missing both the engine and gearbox. Besides that it's supposed to be complete.

I think I could get it for an interesting price.

But would it be a headache to fit a 3.0 with a R28 manual box in it? Something is telling me it won't be a straight job with all the electronics that probably interact with everything.

And while we are at it, and this is most likely out of curiosity, but it is an empty engine bay after all, would I be limited to the Omega range of engines and gearboxes if I want anything half way simple to install? Or would other GM options with more power be sensible?

Stick b234 in it R28 will bolt straight  on

I want 6 cylinders as I'm not interested in turbos and the like. 

But I'm mainly interested in dropping the original Opel V6 3.0 in and wanting to know if it will be troublesome.

Only if there was another much more powerful engine that would be easily dropped in, would I entertain going for something other than the Opel V6 3.0 and going through the hoops to legalize the swap here. Lots of bureaucracy and work involved.

This is why I asked. To see if there is anything out there that would make it worthwhile. Since the engine bay is already empty might as well consider it. I had been suggested getting a 2.5 diesel and swapping for a more powerful BMW diesel of the same series. But I want  petrol and this car is not the diesel anyway.

[Mr Gav]

I was given the suggestion of going fully bespoke a few times here, in order to get to the car I want.

Well, today I stumbled on something that might be a good opportunity for that.

It's a low mileage 2003 3.2 Omega. But it's missing both the engine and gearbox. Besides that it's supposed to be complete.

I think I could get it for an interesting price.

But would it be a headache to fit a 3.0 with a R28 manual box in it? Something is telling me it won't be a straight job with all the electronics that probably interact with everything.

And while we are at it, and this is most likely out of curiosity, but it is an empty engine bay after all, would I be limited to the Omega range of engines and gearboxes if I want anything half way simple to install? Or would other GM options with more power be sensible?

Stick b234 in it R28 will bolt straight  on

I want 6 cylinders as I'm not interested in turbos and the like. 

But I'm mainly interested in dropping the original Opel V6 3.0 in and wanting to know if it will be troublesome.

Only if there was another much more powerful engine that would be easily dropped in, would I entertain going for something other than the Opel V6 3.0 and going through the hoops to legalize the swap here. Lots of bureaucracy and work involved.

This is why I asked. To see if there is anything out there that would make it worthwhile. Since the engine bay is already empty might as well consider it. I had been suggested getting a 2.5 diesel and swapping for a more powerful BMW diesel of the same series. But I want  petrol and this car is not the diesel anyway.

Have a look HERE, though it does have a turbo but also has six cylinders 

[anV6]

I was given the suggestion of going fully bespoke a few times here, in order to get to the car I want.

Well, today I stumbled on something that might be a good opportunity for that.

It's a low mileage 2003 3.2 Omega. But it's missing both the engine and gearbox. Besides that it's supposed to be complete.

I think I could get it for an interesting price.

But would it be a headache to fit a 3.0 with a R28 manual box in it? Something is telling me it won't be a straight job with all the electronics that probably interact with everything.

And while we are at it, and this is most likely out of curiosity, but it is an empty engine bay after all, would I be limited to the Omega range of engines and gearboxes if I want anything half way simple to install? Or would other GM options with more power be sensible?

Stick b234 in it R28 will bolt straight  on

I want 6 cylinders as I'm not interested in turbos and the like. 

But I'm mainly interested in dropping the original Opel V6 3.0 in and wanting to know if it will be troublesome.

Only if there was another much more powerful engine that would be easily dropped in, would I entertain going for something other than the Opel V6 3.0 and going through the hoops to legalize the swap here. Lots of bureaucracy and work involved.

This is why I asked. To see if there is anything out there that would make it worthwhile. Since the engine bay is already empty might as well consider it. I had been suggested getting a 2.5 diesel and swapping for a more powerful BMW diesel of the same series. But I want  petrol and this car is not the diesel anyway.

Have a look HERE, though it does have a turbo but also has six cylinders 

Thanks. I will check it out.

[Fraggles Rock]

That shell is begging for the LC lump to be dropped in... that or an Irmscher 4.0

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Will a Lexus V8 fit ?  Cheap as chips and capable of huge power output. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Will a Lexus V8 fit ?  Cheap as chips and capable of huge power output. 

It will, but doesn't exactly drop straight in... ££££

RATS Omega uses this lump iirc

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Sammy sledge and plasma cutter should suffice I would have thought. 
I believe Rats Omega,s Lexus V8 produced something like 1000bhp.

[anV6]

I took a look at the link. It seems like a complicated operation and also not really cheap. Same with a Lexus V8. At this point, wouldn't it be better to just buy a HSV? It seems to me you would spend basically as much and the Chevy V8s are also infinitely tunable if you are not happy with the stock 400bhp.

[Mr Gav]

I took a look at the link. It seems like a complicated operation and also not really cheap. Same with a Lexus V8. At this point, wouldn't it be better to just buy a HSV? It seems to me you would spend basically as much and the Chevy V8s are also infinitely tunable if you are not happy with the stock 400bhp.

I never said it was easy...just another option for a six cylinder conversion but probably a lot less of a headache than a V8 

[anV6]

That shell is begging for the LC lump to be dropped in... that or an Irmscher 4.0

Problem is finding any of those engines, and if you do, they will cost a lot. 

[anV6]

Will a Lexus V8 fit ?  Cheap as chips and capable of huge power output. 

I think the engine cost is not the problem. The work and cost for fitting it in an Omega, if possible, is what I think would make it prohibitive. Unless what you want is an Omega V8 and no other V8.

Because probably for the money you can buy some other RWD V8  4 door saloons out there.