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[Doctor Gollum]

It's hardly a track car, especially in estate form, and I don't need to drive one on a track to tell you that.

Driven properly on actual roads, the 280bhp V6 Police spec Vectra C is a pretty effective tool.

You can't drive a powerful fwd car in the same way you would a powerful rwd car. If you do, then you'll be disappointed, as you clearly are, so I stand by my statement that if you can't get it to corner, you clearly can't drive.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Doing the cam-belt, water pump etc.. will probably be more challenging.

Definitely a good work horse the Vectra C estate they are huge! Especially now their cheap. Would still take an Omega estate over one in a heartbeat, but it's as close as you'll get a Omega 3.2 estate in that price range. They seem to be reliable enough also. Being a Vauxhall parts will be reasonable etc..

About 30 minutes to an hour longer due to needing to jack it up and remove the crud tray 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Has the steel cam covers as well I believe? 

[Doctor Gollum]

Has the steel cam covers as well I believe? 

Different inlet and breather arrangement

[Marks DTM Calib]

Has the steel cam covers as well I believe? 

Not on the 3.2 Vec C from memory

[anV6]

It's hardly a track car, especially in estate form, and I don't need to drive one on a track to tell you that.

Driven properly on actual roads, the 280bhp V6 Police spec Vectra C is a pretty effective tool.

You can't drive a powerful fwd car in the same way you would a powerful rwd car. If you do, then you'll be disappointed, as you clearly are, so I stand by my statement that if you can't get it to corner, you clearly can't drive.

Wait, where did I say I couldn't get it to corner? I merely stated the behavior is there and is emphasized compared to many other FWD cars, for example the Astra of same vintage.

You are absolutely right. It's not a track car in any of its forms. But when you have no speed limits on the motorway, having a car which does decently on a track is not a useless thing. Not useless at all, especially in the bendy bits. And a Vectra is way too big for a city only car.

But like I said  I was only pointing out it has a bad case of understeering, even for a FWD, and it does. Never said one can't get around that or whatever. It doesn't change the fact it indeed badly understeers. Any car can be driven if you have skills. This is not the point. The point is it is there and more than others. It's for you to decide if you want to drive a car like that or not on a daily basis. I don't. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its interesting is I never found they under steered nearly as bad as a 2WD A4 Audi

[Doctor Gollum]

Its interesting is I never found they under steered nearly as bad as a 2WD A4 Audi

Something to do with the fact that the engine is mounted between the wheels rather than the headlights perhaps...

[Kevin Wood]

Its interesting is I never found they under steered nearly as bad as a 2WD A4 Audi

Something to do with the fact that the engine is mounted between the wheels rather than the headlights perhaps...

Well, there is that. Antithesis to the 911, and just as exercising of the sphincter muscle without being as much fun.

[Doctor Gollum]

Its interesting is I never found they under steered nearly as bad as a 2WD A4 Audi

Something to do with the fact that the engine is mounted between the wheels rather than the headlights perhaps...

Well, there is that. Antithesis to the 911, and just as exercising of the sphincter muscle without being as much fun.

Durchfall vor Technik... Or words to that effect

[anV6]

Its interesting is I never found they under steered nearly as bad as a 2WD A4 Audi

As I'm not a big fan of VWs in general, the only Audis I have driven were AWD. I thought a RS6 and a R8 were worth the experience, even if I will never buy one. 

But the Astra does better than the Vectra C. The GTV, old I know, is also quite well behaved on a track and way too fun for a FWD.

Edit: Thinking again I'm not sure anymore it was a RS6 or RS or S... But it was a Quattro.

[EMD]

Interesting debate  Anyhoo i wont be drifting in it  It will be used as a load lugger and general commute car . Nice clear load space in the back ... on some of the elite cars ive seen the drivers seat in particular doesn't look supportive and sunk a bit "the leather seat ones " Im going to look further into it and also look at the diesel ones if the price is right 

There is an ex police one on the bay at the moment 

[2boxerdogs]

Interesting debate  Anyhoo i wont be drifting in it  It will be used as a load lugger and general commute car . Nice clear load space in the back ... on some of the elite cars ive seen the drivers seat in particular doesn't look supportive and sunk a bit "the leather seat ones " Im going to look further into it and also look at the diesel ones if the price is right 

There is an ex police one on the bay at the moment 

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The way this post was going I was beginning to wonder if we had a rally driver amongst us .😂😂 Although judging by the choice of vehicle thought your intentions would have been blatantly obvious.

[Doctor Gollum]

Interesting debate  Anyhoo i wont be drifting in it  It will be used as a load lugger and general commute car . Nice clear load space in the back ... on some of the elite cars ive seen the drivers seat in particular doesn't look supportive and sunk a bit "the leather seat ones " Im going to look further into it and also look at the diesel ones if the price is right 

There is an ex police one on the bay at the moment 

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The way this post was going I was beginning to wonder if we had a rally driver amongst us .😂😂 Although judging by the choice of vehicle thought your intentions would have been blatantly obvious.

Absolutely, and it's the perfect tool as a traditional family load lugger. Those early cars had the option of full electric memory seats... more common in the Signum, but a straight swap nevertheless

[Viral_Jim]

It's hardly a track car, especially in estate form, and I don't need to drive one on a track to tell you that.

Driven properly on actual roads, the 280bhp V6 Police spec Vectra C is a pretty effective tool.

You can't drive a powerful fwd car in the same way you would a powerful rwd car. If you do, then you'll be disappointed, as you clearly are, so I stand by my statement that if you can't get it to corner, you clearly can't drive.

This is my experience also. I've never driven a Vec C as such. But I have done around 70k in a couple of mapped 9-5 Aeros over the years, which have similar suspension and power to the VXR vec (275bhp, 400NM ish). I've never found them wanting on the road compared to RWD cars I've had over the years. Overall I would say that the positives of FWD outweigh those of RWD on the road (ability in the snow/bad weather, improved space in the back), but only if you drive them correctly.