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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2008, 20:44:56 »

There not as good ax VX wishbones though.....

In all honesty, mine will get rebushed with genuine or better parts.
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2008, 21:03:05 »

look at it this way, you should remember how to change them in 12 months time when you got to change them again!!!! :D
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #3 on: 01 May 2008, 21:12:24 »

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There not as good ax VX wishbones though.....

In all honesty, mine will get rebushed with genuine or better parts.

Talking of bushes, are there any companies out there that do bushes similar to the link below for the Omega.

If they are available are they any good.  if they are not available would it be worth approaching a manufacturer to make them. (That is of course if they are worth having.)

http://www.performance-tuning.co.uk/powerflex_polyurethane_bushes.htm
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #4 on: 01 May 2008, 21:13:26 »

I do 4k a year, ca'nt afford to scrub tyres & finances are tight. In a years time i might be able to replace them again. I know VX parts are more than pattern but that's taking the pee.
     £180 a side + vat? I do'nt think so. >:(
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #5 on: 01 May 2008, 21:16:39 »

Silly price!!!
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #6 on: 01 May 2008, 21:21:19 »

How much are just the bushes genuine? And do you know someone who could press them into the existing wishbones?

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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #7 on: 01 May 2008, 21:24:04 »

Ring round your local parts suppliers.

I had an issue with one shop in the fact that pads/disks supplied for my Carlton CDi were naff.  result is they faded, not good. my life is worth more than a few quid.

Last year my car passed the test but I was advised to change the disks due to pitted on the inside (lack of use, car stood for a few weeks at a time) but, they passed the brake test no probs at all.

I rang round local suppliers and one shop quoted me for 3 makes of front disks for the GLS.  I asked all the questions I could think of and the thing that won me over is that he said this particular brand wouldnt cause any issues under warranty conditons with car manufacturers.

This won me over, I bedded the heat cycles in slowly and must admit they are the best replacment brakes I have ever had.

The point I am making is that you get what you pay for, but you dont allways have to pay top dollar

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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #8 on: 01 May 2008, 21:27:28 »

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About 50-60 quid.

We have also recently discovered an uprated front bush which would fit (they are the same as the 7 series and mid 90's 5 series BMW's) and a poly version from the states (but the seller does not respond to emails!).

I know a man with a home made press and the set of drifts required to change the wishbone bushes... ::)
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #9 on: 01 May 2008, 21:29:42 »

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that was the plan when i changed mine; take the old ones off and get them rebushed to go back on in the future ;) - but they were shagged and went straight down the tip :(
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #10 on: 01 May 2008, 21:54:35 »

i pay £25 a side and they have been in mine and me dads for over a year now and no problems at all !! :y
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #11 on: 01 May 2008, 22:16:58 »

Are they better than the ones i listed? If so where from? Happy to take you're advice.
   Cheers, Guy.
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #12 on: 02 June 2008, 15:09:31 »

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How much are just the bushes genuine? And do you know someone who could press them into the existing wishbones?

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About 50-60 quid.

We have also recently discovered an uprated front bush which would fit (they are the same as the 7 series and mid 90's 5 series BMW's) and a poly version from the states (but the seller does not respond to emails!).

I know a man with a home made press and the set of drifts required to change the wishbone bushes... ::)


Hi Dudes,

Apologies for any unintended duplication...

Further to the above regarding a solution for the crap design of the Omega wishbone front pivot bush, a guy on one of the Cadillac forums posted a possible alternative BMW application that could fit the front of our wishbones.

According to http://www.Meyle.com (Germany), the standard replacement bush for the Omega measures 58.5mm outside diameter, however, the guy on the Cadillac forum reckons a heavy duty BMW E34 (5 series) control arm bush, which is shown as 58.0mm outside diameter, will fit successfully. There are some pics on the Catera forum

Looking through Meyle's excellent website, I found another very similar heavy duty bush for a BMW E24 (6 series) listed at 58.5mm outside diameter - identical to the Omega spec.

Before we all get too excited, I have not yet determined if the centre bore or overall length of either of these bushes is compatible, but from the Cadillac forum it looks very promising.

Potentially better news is that http://www.powerflex.co.uk list bushes for both BMW models in a solid polyurethane design incorporating a stainless steel crush tube around which the body of the bush can pivot. This should virtually eliminate lateral movement of the bush under braking conditions. It may even prolong the life expectancy of the standard vertical rear bush.

If anyone has a standard front wishbone pivot bush to hand from which they could provide exact measurements, please feel free to take up the baton with Meyle or Powerflex to determine viability.

In the meantime, I remain very optimistic with the Powerflex option, as it is likely only to need a minor alteration to a current product line. They're better at answering e-mails, too.

For anyone buying pattern replacement wishbones, I have found (IME) Veco branded items to be of satisfactory quality and readily available from numerous eBay sellers. I paid about £70 for a pair including postage sometime last year. Can't comment on longevity as gearbox expired just before following MoT was due, but it still felt OK up to then.

IMHO, I don't consider the significant extra outlay for "genuine" GM wishbones to be worth it for the marginal extra bush life.

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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #13 on: 02 June 2008, 20:00:44 »

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I know a man with a home made press and the set of drifts required to change the wishbone bushes... ::)

Carefull you don't bend the arm when you press them though. I had to make rings to support the under side of my Senator's wishbone when I did the bushes. They're only pressed & spot welded.
I know you're no numpty but I just want to fore warn you.  :y   :y :y
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #14 on: 02 June 2008, 21:27:08 »

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I know a man with a home made press and the set of drifts required to change the wishbone bushes... ::)

Carefull you don't bend the arm when you press them though. I had to make rings to support the under side of my Senator's wishbone when I did the bushes. They're only pressed & spot welded.
I know you're no numpty but I just want to fore warn you.  :y   :y :y


I have a set of the official tools  :y

As for the BMW alternatives, we (myself and Matchless) obtained a set of the M5 bushes last year from Eurocarparts (rip off) and the dimensions are the same but, the centre hole was off set!

As for the Meyle ones, I have also seen these but not tried any yet as there are no easy to contact Uk distibutors.  :-[

If you could get the drawings (dimensions) for the powerflex bushes it would be interesting.

There was also a US outfit making am ideal poly bush but, we never get an answer from them
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