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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #90 on: 24 March 2017, 13:27:36 »

Depends what you want though, OP clearly wants a decent estate.

Name another Estate as capable, with sub 5k miles. That's far more "mouth-watering"

But I see your point, if I had that amount of cash/budget available I'd consider XF Sportback or BMW 535i Estate. Be it with more miles and not as new.
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #91 on: 24 March 2017, 13:42:46 »

Depends what you want though, OP clearly wants a decent estate.

Name another Estate as capable, with sub 5k miles. That's far more "mouth-watering"

But I see your point, if I had that amount of cash/budget available I'd consider XF Sportback or BMW 535i Estate. Be it with more miles and not as new.

If we set a 'compromise figure' of about £10000 then I could be tempted by an R36 Passat estate. 8)

A £26000 Mondeo will drop more than £10000 within 12 months.
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #94 on: 24 March 2017, 13:58:48 »

That money would see these on the drive...

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C847506

Parked next to one of these...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201703183414471?price-from=500&sort=sponsored&model=M5&make=BMW&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=rh202dg&radius=1500&body-type=Estate&page=1

Both of which are far older and have many more miles on the clock ... The one postulated is "almost" brand new with less than 6000 miles, so it's effectively a new car without having to pay the VAT ... if you wish to offer "alternatives" they should, at least, follow the same specification in regards to age and mileage .....   :)

And we don't know the mileage / age / cost of what Chris has chosen ...  :)
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #95 on: 24 March 2017, 14:02:19 »

That money would see these on the drive...

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C847506

Parked next to one of these...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201703183414471?price-from=500&sort=sponsored&model=M5&make=BMW&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=rh202dg&radius=1500&body-type=Estate&page=1

Both of which are far older and have many more miles on the clock ... The one Chris has chosen is "almost" brand new with less than 6000 miles, so he's effectively getting a new car without having to pay the VAT ... if you wish to offer "alternatives" they should, at least, follow the same specification in regards to age and mileage .....   :)
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You are correct, Mr Entwood. However, I would need to put my 'sensible head' on and I don't think I've ever owned one. ;)

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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #96 on: 24 March 2017, 14:12:24 »

That money would see these on the drive...

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C847506

Parked next to one of these...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201703183414471?price-from=500&sort=sponsored&model=M5&make=BMW&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=rh202dg&radius=1500&body-type=Estate&page=1

Both of which are far older and have many more miles on the clock ... The one postulated is "almost" brand new with less than 6000 miles, so it's effectively a new car without having to pay the VAT ... if you wish to offer "alternatives" they should, at least, follow the same specification in regards to age and mileage .....   :)

And we don't know the mileage / age / cost of what Chris has chosen ...  :)

Both also require huge costs to service, if taking to garages which OP has stated he wants to do and no longer DIY.

Not to mention insurance or tyres or fuel costs  :)
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #97 on: 24 March 2017, 14:40:44 »

The V10 M5 is becoming more collectable. Not sure about the SMG box though. Aaron would know.

I would love an M5 Touring, but at 100k on the clock that one is probably due some positively eye watering bills.. The SMG-II was expensive to fix on the older M3 and I did the work myself using non-BMW parts, at a dealer you'd basically have to give up a kidney to pay for it so god only knows how expensive the SMG-III would be to fix.. and if it's like the SMG-II it's awful around town as the 3->2 downshift makes you headbutt the dashboard every time.  Great on track, great on a country lane blast, terrible at everything else.

DCT (F10 onward) or manual for me.  Straight through exhaust and it sounds like a (proper) F1 car.

Wouldn't touch the Merc with a bargepole though as it appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree (sorry Al!) ;D  An S212 E63 AMG, on the other hand.. would be a tough call between that and the M5 Touring.
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #98 on: 24 March 2017, 14:44:05 »

The V10 M5 is becoming more collectable. Not sure about the SMG box though. Aaron would know.

I would love an M5 Touring, but at 100k on the clock that one is probably due some positively eye watering bills.. The SMG-II was expensive to fix on the older M3 and I did the work myself using non-BMW parts, at a dealer you'd basically have to give up a kidney to pay for it so god only knows how expensive the SMG-III would be to fix.. and if it's like the SMG-II it's awful around town as the 3->2 downshift makes you headbutt the dashboard every time. Great on track, great on a country lane blast, terrible at everything else.

DCT (F10 onward) or manual for me.  Straight through exhaust and it sounds like a (proper) F1 car.

Wouldn't touch the Merc with a bargepole though as it appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree (sorry Al!) ;D


Yes. I have read several customer reviews bitching that the SMG box is extremely jerky in give and take driving.
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« Reply #99 on: 24 March 2017, 14:48:12 »

It could have been fixed so easily in the software - it's not a hardware failing, after all. It just needed to either rev-match properly (never aggressive enough on the throttle and taking too long to re-engage the clutch) or be more gentle on the clutch .. just like a human being would be.

Great fun flying up to a hairpin on track and having it stab into 2nd gear, but not great when you're in school run traffic just trying to get to work.

Still .. I do still miss the M3; the 645ci is a very different barge car..


And none of this is really relevant to ol' Shack who just wanted a nice sensible estate to trundle in ;D
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #100 on: 24 March 2017, 14:58:50 »

It could have been fixed so easily in the software - it's not a hardware failing, after all. It just needed to either rev-match properly (never aggressive enough on the throttle and taking too long to re-engage the clutch) or be more gentle on the clutch .. just like a human being would be.

Great fun flying up to a hairpin on track and having it stab into 2nd gear, but not great when you're in school run traffic just trying to get to work.

Still .. I do still miss the M3; the 645ci is a very different barge car..


And none of this is really relevant to ol' Shack who just wanted a nice sensible estate to trundle in ;D

A Morris Minor Woody perhaps?

Ah nostalgia. :y
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #101 on: 24 March 2017, 16:31:32 »

The Merc is very much on my list as I have wanted one since the day it was launched, not actually fussed about the M5, just an example of what a £26k budget can buy...

It could also buy a £500 runner with an MoT...

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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #102 on: 24 March 2017, 17:07:35 »

Well after some weeks of researching, trying seats in the few petrol newish estate cars available, I am back to the Ford Mondeo as the only car with the boot space that fits the bill for me, and I realise this will cause gnashing of teeth among the Ford haters and badge snobs.
I'm going for the 2.0L ecoBoost estate, Titanium X with £3000 worth of extras in shadow black.

Off you go lads, rant away. ;D :y



Sounds like it's latest shape? I think the new shape Mondeo Estates are great looking cars, especially in TitanmX spec 8)





Is this the modern day replacement for 'Ghia'?

I assume so, I am quite amazed at the goodies on it in TitX spec., plus all the stuff the Ford Manager had added, 12 speaker audio, rear view camera, blind spot alert, powered tailgate,active park assist, active city stop etc. etc. :y
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« Reply #103 on: 24 March 2017, 17:09:16 »

Don't call it Titx, you're leaving yourself wide open.
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Re: Replacement Estate
« Reply #104 on: 24 March 2017, 17:15:59 »

For info, the car is 7 months old, 4200 miles, £21325, almost exactly 10k under list if you include the price of the options. I would have been happy to pay more for the right vehicle, but the Mercs offered were either all diesel, or mid £30k, so no good to me, and the seats I tried were no better than the Ford, and many of the options were not fitted, presumably too expensive for the original buyers. :y
Entwood may be interested, the car has technology via its tow bar connection to the tin tent, that should the van go into swerve mode, the car automatically takes control to stop it! Not that I will be towing. :y
I tried to see if BMW had anything, one 528i in petrol available in the country on their list, 120 miles, £35k or some such. Everything else is diesel. All the sales staff in all the garages are admitting that all buyers are coming in for petrol cars, the Ford salesman was told by Ford on a recent course that they will not be making diesels in 10 years. I suspect it will be less than that. :y
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