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[BazaJT]

Watched one of those police shows about NZ force this morning.They pulled over a cyclist,no front light,no rear light and not wearing a helmet.Result? $165 in fines.They'd make millions if they did that over here

[STEMO]

Cycling fines? Fines for cycling. I like the sound of that. UKIP should get it in before the election. 

[redelitev6]

Cycling fines? Fines for cycling. I like the sound of that. UKIP should get it in before the election. 

If they just fined the ones creeping through red lights that would raise a fortune 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Talking of bicycling, where's Guffer?   

Maybe he'll pop up when he sees this thread! 

[Rods2]

There has recently been in the newspaper's, information about an MPs report, and talk of a new law and revision of the highway code to help cyclists, where ALL UK motorist regardless of priority must give way to cyclists at junctions.

[tinhat_on]Once the General Election is over, I will be emailing my MP urging its adoption sooner rather than later to save unnecessary cyclist's deaths.[/tinhat_on]

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/change-highway-code-give-cyclists-42460

[Bigron]

Most cyclists that I encounter on the road flout existing traffic laws arrogantly and without consideration for other road users and/or pedesrians; allow them this priority and they will become even more insufferable and think that they are beyond all laws and accountability.
Sorry to any responsible cyclists on here, but it's exactly the situation that I see daily and NO police action is ever taken against them, which parallels the situation complained about by those out-of-touch MPs.

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

8594 drivers didn't get a ban when they accrued 12 points! 

Now the article dosn't say over what time period this occurred, but even so that's what's concerning about this story to me TBH. 

The cyclist angle is irrelevant really, just good copy to sell the Bristol Evening Post. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

This outlines how cyclists can break the law and be fined for it when caught:

http://www.cyclelaw.co.uk/cycling-offences-riding-dangerously-recklessly-carelessly-or-inconsiderately

 

[Bigron]

Sir Tigger, can we have a little perspective here, please? What proportion of the total number of motorits is 8594? I'm guessing that you might argue that I've chosen the wrong parameter to calculate the ratio and would probably prefer it to be 8594 against the number of motorists arreigned, but I don't think that would give a true perspective - argue away!
I won't accept Lizzie as your legal representative - she's too clever!

Ron.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Sir Tigger, can we have a little perspective here, please? What proportion of the total number of motorits is 8594? I'm guessing that you might argue that I've chosen the wrong parameter to calculate the ratio and would probably prefer it to be 8594 against the number of motorists arreigned, but I don't think that would give a true perspective - argue away!
I won't accept Lizzie as your legal representative - she's too clever!

Ron.

  I'd loved to have been a barrister; they are clever and a joy to watch

[Sir Tigger KC]

Sir Tigger, can we have a little perspective here, please? What proportion of the total number of motorits is 8594? I'm guessing that you might argue that I've chosen the wrong parameter to calculate the ratio and would probably prefer it to be 8594 against the number of motorists arreigned, but I don't think that would give a true perspective - argue away!
I won't accept Lizzie as your legal representative - she's too clever!

Ron.

I don't think it matters what the proportion is to be honest Ron.  That's 8594 drivers who should have been banned are still driving. 

But maybe that's 8594 over a 100 years.... 

[raywilb]

don't start me on having a form of road tax , insurance banning cyclists from wearing headphones whilst riding 

[Bigron]

Yes, please do, raywilb; the infrastructure is already in place to require cyclists to be taxed, insured and not be distracted by electronic devices whilst on the road - ask ANY motorist!
A simple extention of the system to include cyclists and maybe motorists wouldn't have to pay so much tax and if they had to wear number plates they would also be accountable for their misdemeanours - or be given points, leading to a ban if they collect a sufficient number of points.
Does that sound familiar?

Ron.

[Bigron]

Sorry, Sir Tigger, I wasn't dismissing the enormity of that number of drivers who escaped a ban, just trying to take a step back and look at the bigger picture: and as you rightly suggest - over what period was this?

Ron.

[ronnyd]

don't start me on having a form of road tax , insurance banning cyclists from wearing headphones whilst riding 

Yes Ray, i,m a keen cyclist and to me it beggars belief that they dare to go out on the roads with headphones stuck in their lugholes. It,s the same with pedestrians though, why have a bell on your bike cause they can,t hear it.