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Tech Question - Computers
« on: 31 July 2008, 22:04:18 »
Am naffed off.

Allways been an Hitachi hard drive fan, mainly speed and excellent reliabilty.

Samsung, failed too often, seagate too slow, but ended up on a run of maxtor drives when Fujitsu stops supplying the market.

Any way, after 4 Maxtor failure on the trot, I now will not touch them.
So I treat myself to a 320gb and a 500gb drive last week.

Slowly filling up the 500gb over the week and last night it went offline on me.

Under the harddrive management it is showing as a dydnamic drive and offline.  Properties tell me all the drive deails and it shows in the bios on boot up.

What ever I do under widows I cannot get it backonline, but I have the option to prepre it.  I dont want to use this option as I will lose all the data on it.

Any one know of any programs or utils to bring it back online.

Windows XP Pro, big down side is it happened before I managed to beck up, so if I lose it, then I am stuffed.

TIA.   :y
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Re: Tech Question - Computers
« Reply #1 on: 31 July 2008, 22:09:18 »
My 500gb SATA Maxtor has just failed, thats only 4 months old so is going back to the shop. :'(

Yes I did lose all the data
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« Reply #2 on: 31 July 2008, 22:11:04 »
msn on route....
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Re: Tech Question - Computers
« Reply #3 on: 31 July 2008, 22:13:53 »
I've used GetDataBack a few times from very dodgy drives...
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« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2008, 22:19:45 »
Run the drive as a slave instead of a master, assuming you've got a windows install somewhere on another HDD.  Could just be that the MBR has gone?

GetDataBack has worked pretty well for me when the first of my Maxtor SATA raid died...rapidly followed by the 2nd.  Now on a Samsung EIDE - seems much quicker.  They can shove SATA up their poophole...
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« Reply #5 on: 31 July 2008, 22:26:51 »
No suggestion on recovery, but instead of two HDDs, why didn't you get a NAS box with RAID? You can connect it to the network directly (e.g. your router) and everything is backed up on the fly.
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« Reply #6 on: 31 July 2008, 22:31:13 »
Changing the affected drive to a Slave has the same effect...if it can be seen by the Bios or Windoze, then either Windows Explorer or GetDataBack will be able to see it.
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« Reply #7 on: 31 July 2008, 22:37:47 »
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I've used GetDataBack a few times from very dodgy drives...

Jimbobs many thanks.   :y :y :y :y
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« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2008, 22:40:30 »
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Run the drive as a slave instead of a master, assuming you've got a windows install somewhere on another HDD.  Could just be that the MBR has gone?

GetDataBack has worked pretty well for me when the first of my Maxtor SATA raid died...rapidly followed by the 2nd.  Now on a Samsung EIDE - seems much quicker.  They can shove SATA up their poophole...

Is run as a slave on Sata.

I never use big hard drives for boot drives, in fact I have 4 or 5 80Gb  that will be put into all my machines.

Boot drive on this machine is a 200gb, but tha will go down to an 80 now.
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« Reply #9 on: 31 July 2008, 22:41:39 »
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No suggestion on recovery, but instead of two HDDs, why didn't you get a NAS box with RAID? You can connect it to the network directly (e.g. your router) and everything is backed up on the fly.

Got one, that is annother story and a complete pain in the arse.   :-/
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« Reply #10 on: 31 July 2008, 22:45:45 »
Thank goodness for Apple Mac's  :y

Probably tempting fate but in 4 years of using a Mac have had virtually no down time - now where's that fingers crossed icon... ;)
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Thank goodness for Apple Mac's  :y

Probably tempting fate but in 4 years of using a Mac have had virtually no down time - now where's that fingers crossed icon... ;)

Having had many computrs and its a big list, I can honestly say, I have only really had failures in the last 2 years or so.

Other parts I can come with, but data loss on a drives thats less than a week old, and less then a month in the case of 4 Maxtor failures.  bad news.


Am now looking into cooling options or the hard drives as I think they all run too hot these days.
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Re: Tech Question - Computers
« Reply #12 on: 01 August 2008, 09:41:40 »
Just out of curiousity how full was the drive?  You should always leave a quarter of the full capacity of the hard drive free or you risk unrecoverable read errors.  Fried a few drives myself from filling them too full.

Also don't defrag a hard drive that's nearly full also lost a few doing this.  People always advise to defrag drives when they are going a bit wonky I've found it finishes them off.

Have you checked for smart errors?  You'll be able to get a few programs off www.download.com to read them if you haven't already.  Just type S.M.A.R.T into the search box.
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« Reply #13 on: 01 August 2008, 09:52:41 »
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Just out of curiousity how full was the drive?  You should always leave a quarter of the full capacity of the hard drive free or you risk unrecoverable read errors.  Fried a few drives myself from filling them too full.

Also don't defrag a hard drive that's nearly full also lost a few doing this.  People always advise to defrag drives when they are going a bit wonky I've found it finishes them off.

Have you checked for smart errors?  You'll be able to get a few programs off www.download.com to read them if you haven't already.  Just type S.M.A.R.T into the search box.
Makes no difference - all drives built in last 15yrs or so use hidden sectors for sector mapping
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« Reply #14 on: 01 August 2008, 09:58:00 »
A big issue causing premature drive failure is heat.  This is a particular problem with all AMD Athlon XP and Athlon64 (and related families), and with 'Prescot' Intel P4s (P4D onwards, though P4E was a little better).  

DIY build PCs by people without the knowledge to do it also causes drive problems, again mostly to heat, sometimes due to mounting.
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