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[frostbite]

I am going to email ferodo, the box has federal mogal on it and it was in 1998 that they partnered up. There isnt a great deal of info about the target range bit its stamped r90

Worth a shot and it may not even have asbestos

[Doctor Gollum]

I am going to email ferodo, the box has federal mogal on it and it was in 1998 that they partnered up. There isnt a great deal of info about the target range bit its stamped r90

Worth a shot and it may not even have asbestos

If it doesn't then happy days

[Kevin Wood]

Kevin, I'm sad to hear about your friend and in no way did I want to harm your memory of him, but I do see your point and I am wrong.
I claimed that it was safe if handled carefully, but in the ad hoc environment of a garage - commercial or home - if it needs to be treated with that much care, it is right that it was banned. Sorry. 

Ron.

No problem, Ron. You are correct that it's fine if undisturbed and handled correctly but, in an application like brakes that can't avoid generating dust we're better off without it.

Only a couple of weeks back I was using an airline to blow dust out of an old valve radio that I'm restoring for a friend, then I noticed asbestos insulation around the dropper resistor.

[Bigron]

Ouch! Now that is potentially dangerous; I hope you didn't release any particles?
Ah, old valve radios - that's where I started!
Can you still get ITMA and other good programmes on that vintage radio? 

Ron.

[Kevin Wood]

Ouch! Now that is potentially dangerous; I hope you didn't release any particles?
Ah, old valve radios - that's where I started!
Can you still get ITMA and other good programmes on that vintage radio? 

Ron.

Can't get anything other than a whistle and a decent electric shock from it at the moment. It's an AC/DC set so depending on which way round you plug the mains lead in, there's a 50% chance that the chassis is live. The thing I found funny is that, if you happen to get it right and the chassis is at neutral potential, the switch is in the neutral line, so turn it off and the chassis is live again. I couldn't have done a better job of making it lethal if I'd tried.

Needless to say, I've dug out an isolating transformer.

[aaronjb]

Needless to say, I've dug out an isolating transformer.

Where's your sense of adventure, man?

[Bigron]

Kevin, I have a hair-raising retro experience too......
One memorable day long ago and in a far distant place, I was fault-finding on a "wireless" and employed the standard technique ot touching the top caps of some of the valves, because they were always the grid electrodes, right?
WRONG!
I found one that was an anode, and rhe metallised jacket of the valve was earthed, which anothe finger also contacted.......
I expressed my regret at doing so quite vocally! 

Ron.

[Kevin Wood]

Ouch! Having played with a few valve transmitters, I have a healthy respect for the top caps.

[Bigron]

I learned very early in life always to keep one hand in my pocket when working on equipment - No, dirty-minded lot, NOT for that reason - but that didn't protect me from that awakening moment with the anode cap at 350 volts and the earthed metallised casing!
Some lessons you NEVER forget!

Ron.

[TD]

I learned very early in life always to keep one hand in my pocket when working on equipment - No, dirty-minded lot, NOT for that reason - but that didn't protect me from that awakening moment with the anode cap at 350 volts and the earthed metallised casing!
Some lessons you NEVER forget!

Ron.

I was taught that too, in my early days of setting up CRT monitors.
Plus have someone close by when messing about with CRT with 10's of thousands of volts flying around.

Also iirc, the flooring in the 'lab' area was carpet tiles with rubber backing, to try to minimise the result of touching something you shouldn't have 

[Bigron]

Also, no matter how long the CRT has been off, the effective capacitor formed by the internal and ecternal conductive layers still retain a lot of the 25kV charge, so discharge it MANY times before removing it from the tv/monitor - or SUFFER!
I've know people throw big and heavy CRTs high in the air due to their forgetting this simple procedure!

Ron.

[aaronjb]

Definitely got that t-shirt!

[TheBoy]

Also, no matter how long the CRT has been off, the effective capacitor formed by the internal and ecternal conductive layers still retain a lot of the 25kV charge, so discharge it MANY times before removing it from the tv/monitor - or SUFFER!
I've know people throw big and heavy CRTs high in the air due to their forgetting this simple procedure!

Ron.

Pair of big screwdrivers soon discharges it.  Just use the proper tool in you 224 exam .

[Bigron]

With bloody well insulated handles, yes TB!
I've actually done that in a customer's house, not realising that she was close by - she went running to her knicker drawer! 

Ron.

[frostbite]

Ok back on topic,

I have emailed ferodo, but upon sending the email I stumbled upon their history

in the 80s they were the first european manufacturer to not use asbesdos  in friction linings

so we'll see