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Re: New car for dad, help
« Reply #30 on: 18 July 2017, 17:37:35 »

The Hyundai will die the day after the warranty runs out, so no use for longevity.

Do tell us, what do you base this profound comment on - fact, personal experience, or simply that you don't like Hyundai's? Or is it just another misguided opinion? I am interested to know.
     







Had my Terracan 5 years bought with 25,000 miles now on 65,000 apart from a replacement alternator has not missed a beat, tows anything easily & will do anything a Range Rover can do never failed an MOT &  not a speck of rust anywhere
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« Reply #31 on: 18 July 2017, 17:40:33 »

It was meant tongue firmly in cheek ;)

However, it stands to reason that if they were designed for a longer life expectancy that they would offer a longer warranty. The mileage limitation gives an idea of what the car is designed to be capable of, the time limitation being a reasonable period for the mileage expectancy to be reached.

Some cars will faill before the warranty expires, and some will last forever, but the majority will have some form of significant failure shortly after the warranty period ends.

This applies to any vehicle, but those from manufacturers offering longer warranty terms will suffer higher failure rates at the end of the warranty period due to the vehicles being older and higher mileage compounding the likelihood of a significant failure.
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Re: New car for dad, help
« Reply #32 on: 18 July 2017, 17:43:51 »

The Hyundai will die the day after the warranty runs out, so no use for longevity.

Do tell us, what do you base this profound comment on - fact, personal experience, or simply that you don't like Hyundai's? Or is it just another misguided opinion? I am interested to know.
     
Had my Terracan 5 years bought with 25,000 miles now on 65,000 apart from a replacement alternator has not missed a beat, tows anything easily & will do anything a Range Rover can do never failed an MOT &  not a speck of rust anywhere
Luck, and regular/preventative maintenance certainly all go a long way to improving the odds in your favour, although that mileage is relatively light use...
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Re: New car for dad, help
« Reply #33 on: 18 July 2017, 18:04:41 »

It was meant tongue firmly in cheek ;)

However, it stands to reason that if they were designed for a longer life expectancy that they would offer a longer warranty. The mileage limitation gives an idea of what the car is designed to be capable of, the time limitation being a reasonable period for the mileage expectancy to be reached.

Some cars will faill before the warranty expires, and some will last forever, but the majority will have some form of significant failure shortly after the warranty period ends.

This applies to any vehicle, but those from manufacturers offering longer warranty terms will suffer higher failure rates at the end of the warranty period due to the vehicles being older and higher mileage compounding the likelihood of a significant failure.
So you'll be avoiding MB, due to poor warranty.  Not that I'd blame you if you decided never to own a MB ever again ;)
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« Reply #34 on: 18 July 2017, 18:09:03 »

will do anything a Range Rover can do
I'll have a few ounces of what you're smoking please ;D.

Granted, in the BL/BMW era, reliability wasn't the best, but if you really think that an on road car can match a RR's off road capability, you have misunderstood the latter's capability :y
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« Reply #35 on: 18 July 2017, 18:11:51 »

Arguably, the 'poor' warranty is a realistic one...

I am unlikely to buy a new enough Mercedes to have a warranty... besides, the new ones are hideous ;D

As to the reliability of an older one... watch this space, although I suspect it will be more of a project than anticipated  :-X
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« Reply #36 on: 18 July 2017, 18:26:42 »

Arguably, the 'poor' warranty is a realistic one...

I am unlikely to buy a new enough Mercedes to have a warranty... besides, the new ones are hideous ;D

As to the reliability of an older one... watch this space, although I suspect it will be more of a project than anticipated  :-X
Well, that makes the Koreans more reliable than most cars then ;).

And old Merc. That's brave. Esp one that's been ragged.
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« Reply #37 on: 18 July 2017, 18:45:08 »

It was meant tongue firmly in cheek ;)

However, it stands to reason that if they were designed for a longer life expectancy that they would offer a longer warranty. The mileage limitation gives an idea of what the car is designed to be capable of, the time limitation being a reasonable period for the mileage expectancy to be reached.

Some cars will faill before the warranty expires, and some will last forever, but the majority will have some form of significant failure shortly after the warranty period ends.

This applies to any vehicle, but those from manufacturers offering longer warranty terms will suffer higher failure rates at the end of the warranty period due to the vehicles being older and higher mileage compounding the likelihood of a significant failure.
So you'll be avoiding MB, due to poor warranty.  Not that I'd blame you if you decided never to own a MB ever again ;)

Do I take you're not very keen on MB's then? :o
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« Reply #38 on: 18 July 2017, 18:54:43 »

Arguably, the 'poor' warranty is a realistic one...

I am unlikely to buy a new enough Mercedes to have a warranty... besides, the new ones are hideous ;D

As to the reliability of an older one... watch this space, although I suspect it will be more of a project than anticipated  :-X

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« Reply #39 on: 18 July 2017, 19:07:32 »

will do anything a Range Rover can do
I'll have a few ounces of what you're smoking please ;D.

Granted, in the BL/BMW era, reliability wasn't the best, but if you really think that an on road car can match a RR's off road capability, you have misunderstood the latter's capability :y
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A Terracan is not an " on road " car it is a large 4x4 & extremely capable off road mine has been used alongside Land Rovers & Range Rovers and once even towed a Disco out which was stuck fast, quite a big following in Australia  seen quite a few in Spain as well.
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« Reply #40 on: 18 July 2017, 19:22:09 »

Arguably, the 'poor' warranty is a realistic one...

I am unlikely to buy a new enough Mercedes to have a warranty... besides, the new ones are hideous ;D

As to the reliability of an older one... watch this space, although I suspect it will be more of a project than anticipated  :-X
Well, that makes the Koreans more reliable than most cars then ;).

And old Merc. That's brave. Esp one that's been ragged.
At this point, I suspect a ragged one would be less short term trouble than a garage queen... ::)
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« Reply #41 on: 18 July 2017, 19:30:39 »

Incidentally, my 3 year old E Class managed 30k miles in eight months with only servicing required.
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« Reply #42 on: 18 July 2017, 19:36:27 »

A properly old Merc will usually outlast its owner, if taken care of.  ;)
Mine might manage it. Depends what the doc says when I see him in a couple of weeks.  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 18 July 2017, 20:23:00 »

I am on my second old Merc , first one a 93 190e bought it in 2007  was fantastic no issues whatsoever, the E class I now have is a 2000 with no rust ( before the comments start) they do exist 😀 As with most cars do your homework don't skimp on maintenance , I always use genuine OE parts & never have had any problems.
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Re: New car for dad, help
« Reply #44 on: 18 July 2017, 21:20:15 »

will do anything a Range Rover can do
I'll have a few ounces of what you're smoking please ;D.

Granted, in the BL/BMW era, reliability wasn't the best, but if you really think that an on road car can match a RR's off road capability, you have misunderstood the latter's capability :y
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A Terracan is not an " on road " car it is a large 4x4 & extremely capable off road mine has been used alongside Land Rovers & Range Rovers and once even towed a Disco out which was stuck fast, quite a big following in Australia  seen quite a few in Spain as well.
In the same way a Hyundai Santa Fe is ;)

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Anyway, I've realised that in a single thread I've been discourteous to both of your cars, so I'll shut up now  :-X. Sorry.
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