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Front indicators on newer cars
« on: 14 June 2018, 19:31:43 »
Haven,t been on the bike for over a week due to getting over a persistent stomach bug.(Aaah ;D). Anyway, back on today and either my eyes are getting worse or are modern lenses less visible in strong sunlight? Found when crossing over roads from a bike lane, (i always look, that,s how iv,e managed to reach 73 :)) that some of the said indicators are nearly invisible when the sun is straight on the front of the car. Anyone else noticed this?
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #1 on: 14 June 2018, 19:40:23 »
Fashion / car styling has seen the orange lenses replaced with clear lenses and use lamps (bulbs) painted orange
the paint breaks down ,flakes off showing white light ,harder to see in sunlight .

it is an MOT fail ,but missed by some testers 
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #2 on: 14 June 2018, 19:51:55 »
Quote from: dave the builder on 14 June 2018, 19:40:23
Fashion / car styling has seen the orange lenses replaced with clear lenses and use lamps (bulbs) painted orange
the paint breaks down ,flakes off showing white light ,harder to see in sunlight .

it is an MOT fail ,but missed by some testers 
See your point but some of the cars are 16/17 plate.
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #3 on: 14 June 2018, 21:23:01 »
Quote from: dave the builder on 14 June 2018, 19:40:23
Fashion / car styling has seen the orange lenses replaced with clear lenses and use lamps (bulbs) painted orange
the paint breaks down ,flakes off showing white light ,harder to see in sunlight .

it is an MOT fail ,but missed by some testers

Clear lenses on indicators have been on & off (no pun intended  ;D) for years .... My 73 MKIII Cortina had a yellow diffuser behind a clear lense at the front.
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #4 on: 15 June 2018, 05:19:57 »
Ive noticed this for some time.

I believe the indicators are less easy to see when the manu makes them part of the headlamp cluster.
There easier to see when separate units...
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #5 on: 15 June 2018, 09:46:59 »
Quote from: TD on 15 June 2018, 05:19:57
Ive noticed this for some time.

I believe the indicators are less easy to see when the manu makes them part of the headlamp cluster.
There easier to see when separate units...
That's why they insist on turning the relevant headlight off when you indicate... I have noticed some cars also dim the tail light as they're too bright for the indicators to show ::)

Where's the slap head smiley when you need it ;D
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #6 on: 15 June 2018, 09:50:49 »
I guess manufacturers have decided that it's so rare for them to be used, correctly, if at all, that it doesn't matter if you can see them or not. >:(
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #7 on: 15 June 2018, 10:05:55 »
DRL are a ridiculous idea for a country with daylight...

Supposed to make it safer for moto/bicyclists yet the net result is making them invisible... Which in turn legalises flashing leds on pushbikes which are a distraction, especially when following which causes more accidents... ::)

Life was alot simpler before the elfs got involved.
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #8 on: 15 June 2018, 10:09:03 »
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 15 June 2018, 09:50:49
I guess manufacturers BMW has decided that it's so rare for them to be used, correctly, if at all, that it doesn't matter if you can see them or not. >:(

And anyway . . . .

In West Wales it's so rare for them to be used, correctly, if at all, that it doesn't matter if you can see them or not. >:(


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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #9 on: 15 June 2018, 10:17:14 »
Quote from: Mister Rog on 15 June 2018, 10:09:03
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 15 June 2018, 09:50:49
I guess manufacturers BMW has decided that it's so rare for them to be used, correctly, if at all, that it doesn't matter if you can see them or not. >:(

And anyway . . . .

In West Wales it's so rare for them to be used, correctly, if at all, that it doesn't matter if you can see them or not. >:(
It's because they're not bilingual... It's a wonder there's any space on the roads there with all the writing on them :D
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #10 on: 15 June 2018, 11:30:28 »
I think LEDs don't help, unless you are at the perfect angle, and assuming the far brighter DRL LEDs haven't already burnt your retina.

Then there are those songs with Audis and a copy of Vagcom, who disable the DRL/sidelight dimming when indicating, because of a opps YOU attitude.


I personally find the previous model VW Golf and Passat impossible to see rear indicator, esp if the brake lights are on.
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #11 on: 15 June 2018, 11:50:47 »

Of course, it could just be that our eyesight is deteriorating, and we all know what makes you go blind . . . .  ::)

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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #12 on: 15 June 2018, 13:24:07 »
Are BMWs/Audis fitted with indicators?  ???

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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #13 on: 15 June 2018, 13:32:37 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 15 June 2018, 11:30:28
I personally find the previous model VW Golf and Passat impossible to see rear indicator, esp if the brake lights are on.

Stop Press!: VAG car in "it's a bit shit" shocker! ;)
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Re: Front indicators on newer cars
« Reply #14 on: 15 June 2018, 14:15:30 »
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 15 June 2018, 13:32:37
Quote from: TheBoy on 15 June 2018, 11:30:28
I personally find the previous model VW Golf and Passat impossible to see rear indicator, esp if the brake lights are on.

Stop Press!: VAG car in "it's a bit shit" shocker! ;)
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