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Novichok claims first UK victim
« on: 08 July 2018, 22:38:55 »
The woman recently poisoned has died. :'(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44760875
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #1 on: 09 July 2018, 13:33:12 »
Nice headline, Rods. You read the daily fail, don't you?  ;D
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #2 on: 09 July 2018, 16:20:49 »
From a legal point of view how can this possibly be classed as murder before any real evidence is gathered to suggest that someone or group deliberately targeted this civilian woman who has no obvious connection with intelligence services of either Russia, UK, USA, or any other country.

Everything is pointing to an "accidental" poisoning from a receptacle or item that has connection to the original attempted murder of the ex-Russian agent and his partner in Salisbury.  This is "manslaughter" if it can ever be proved, and the CPS excepting to take on such a case! ::)

Typical media jumping to conclusions.
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #3 on: 09 July 2018, 16:37:09 »
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 09 July 2018, 16:20:49
From a legal point of view how can this possibly be classed as murder before any real evidence is gathered to suggest that someone or group deliberately targeted this civilian woman who has no obvious connection with intelligence services of either Russia, UK, USA, or any other country.

Everything is pointing to an "accidental" poisoning from a receptacle or item that has connection to the original attempted murder of the ex-Russian agent and his partner in Salisbury.  This is "manslaughter" if it can ever be proved, and the CPS excepting to take on such a case! ::)

Typical media jumping to conclusions.


From my local paper.....

Counter-terrorism detectives leading the enquiry announced on Sunday night they had launched a murder probe.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/16341453.wiltshire-police-chiefs-horrified-and-appalled-at-amesbury-novichok-murder/
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #4 on: 09 July 2018, 17:47:41 »
................and it still amazes me, given to what is suspected to have happened that they can suggest murder, not manslaughter; but still that will be the eventual charge IF they find anyone who can be held responsible.........and the CPS support charges and a court case!

...........excuse me President Putin, can you now hand over the agents of yours who attempted the first murder as we think they discarded a contaminated container or item that has caused manslaughter....................yeah, sure!! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #5 on: 09 July 2018, 18:26:16 »
The police will always START with a "murder" probe, and if required downgrade it to "manslaughter" once the evidence is gathered. The "murder" title gives them access to more resources :)
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #6 on: 09 July 2018, 18:51:47 »
Quote from: Entwood on 09 July 2018, 18:26:16
The police will always START with a "murder" probe, and if required downgrade it to "manslaughter" once the evidence is gathered. The "murder" title gives them access to more resources :)

Thanks Entwood, I understand that bit in normal cases, but this one is very different and will continue to have MI5/6 all over it knowing (repeated again tonight) that the couple must have come into accidental contact with Novchok.  All officers and intelligence agents, with free access to all areas, will know that this was an accidental contamination and will never be a murder charge. ;)
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #7 on: 09 July 2018, 18:57:06 »
I suppose that, when someone is killed with a military nerve agent, it starts off as murder by default, until it can be shown that it was indeed the "left overs" from the Skripal poisoning. After all, it could have been deliberate. We don't know until it is proven beyond doubt that it wasn't. Maybe the Russians picked another victim at random to cause confusion? Maybe Porton Down leaked something? Who knows at this stage? :-\
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #8 on: 09 July 2018, 19:08:04 »
They seem an odd couple too...  :-\
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #9 on: 09 July 2018, 19:38:05 »
Dangerous place this England. I have managed to avoid picking up any containers (makes supermarket ready meals tricky).

I am leaving just before Trump arrives. Good luck folks  ;D
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #10 on: 09 July 2018, 21:43:10 »
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 09 July 2018, 16:20:49
From a legal point of view how can this possibly be classed as murder before any real evidence is gathered to suggest that someone or group deliberately targeted this civilian woman who has no obvious connection with intelligence services of either Russia, UK, USA, or any other country.

Everything is pointing to an "accidental" poisoning from a receptacle or item that has connection to the original attempted murder of the ex-Russian agent and his partner in Salisbury.  This is "manslaughter" if it can ever be proved, and the CPS excepting to take on such a case! ::)

Typical media jumping to conclusions.
Think you,ll find that they were father and daughter. :D
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #11 on: 10 July 2018, 00:12:15 »
Quote from: Varche on 09 July 2018, 19:38:05
Dangerous place this England. I have managed to avoid picking up any containers (makes supermarket ready meals tricky).

I am leaving just before Trump arrives. Good luck folks  ;D

Good point. Maybe they were practising for Trump? Grassy knolls are so 1963. ;)
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #12 on: 10 July 2018, 08:22:37 »
Quote from: ronnyd on 09 July 2018, 21:43:10
Think you,ll find that they were father and daughter. :D

Perhaps in Kent, being both isn't uncommon? ;D
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
« Reply #13 on: 10 July 2018, 09:45:17 »
Quote from: ronnyd on 09 July 2018, 21:43:10
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 09 July 2018, 16:20:49
From a legal point of view how can this possibly be classed as murder before any real evidence is gathered to suggest that someone or group deliberately targeted this civilian woman who has no obvious connection with intelligence services of either Russia, UK, USA, or any other country.

Everything is pointing to an "accidental" poisoning from a receptacle or item that has connection to the original attempted murder of the ex-Russian agent and his partner in Salisbury.  This is "manslaughter" if it can ever be proved, and the CPS excepting to take on such a case! ::)

Typical media jumping to conclusions.
Think you,ll find that they were father and daughter. :D

Yes, it was.  I had a slip of the old brain box!! ::) :-[ :-[ :D ;)
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Re: Novichok claims first UK victim
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