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[Debs.]

So, it`s true-then; there really are no depths 'too deep to plumb'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7563263.stm

I thought this quote to be an accurate summation:

"You really would need to be scum of the earth to do such a thing. It really is the lowest of the low"

[stuart30]

So, it`s true-then; there really are no depths 'too deep to plumb'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7563263.stm

I thought this quote to be an accurate summation:

"You really would need to be scum of the earth to do such a thing. It really is the lowest of the low"

That is incredibly sad...just goes too show people have no respect for themselves or others.

However i feel the lowest of the low is a bit ott....scum i agree with.

[HerefordElite]

rather pikies

[sir moanalot]

with the drug situation as it is nowadays these "people"?? have no worries in what they do to get their "fix" be it stealing or murder.  :-/

[stuart30]

with the drug situation as it is nowadays these "people"?? have no worries in what they do to get their "fix" be it stealing or murder.  :-/

Even if they were caught by the police its doubtfull now days they would get jail time...so really they dont have much too worry about.

[Martin_1962]

Scum

[albitz]

They are not taught British history or taught to respect the sacrifices it involved in school these days, our new establishment is ashamed of Britishness and its heritage. Maybe these are the fruits of their "labours".

[stuart30]

They are not taught British history or taught to respect the sacrifices it involved in school these days, our new establishment is ashamed of Britishness and its heritage. Maybe these are the fruits of their "labours".

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Not PC too be taught about being British...now we are officially a multicultural society.

[FRE07962128]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

[Cumbria]

Time to bring back national service me thinks.

[stuart30]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

Too be fair Lizzie travelers or pikeys as some of us refer too them are much more likely too steal than the average man in the street.

Ive lived amongst them and trust me i have first hand knowledge of major drug dealing...numerous thefts from houses,cars and people...travelers forcing people too steal on there behalf and beating the person up if they refused.

They have zero respect for the likes of us ""Gorgers"" and zero respect for law as they live there life too there own rules....not society's.

Ive also had Gypsy as friends....totally different attitude too travelers/pikeys and they (gypsies ive met so far) despise pikeys as much as we (normal society) does.

Also as someone who is married too a coloured person i find your comparison regards colour incredibly offensive.

[FRE07962128]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

Too be fair Lizzie travelers or pikeys as some of us refer too them are much more likely too steal than the average man in the street.

Ive lived amongst them and trust me i have first hand knowledge of major drug dealing...numerous thefts from houses,cars and people...travelers forcing people too steal on there behalf and beating the person up if they refused.

They have zero respect for the likes of us ""Gorgers"" and zero respect for law as they live there life too there own rules....not society's.

Ive also had Gypsy as friends....totally different attitude too travelers/pikeys and they (gypsies ive met so far) despise pikeys as much as we (normal society) does.

Also as someone who is married too a coloured person i find your comparison regards colour incredibly offensive.

The point I was making Stuart is that there is no evidence that they were reponsible in this case!

In addition, if you read it again, my comment on blacks, in line with Irish and Jews was made to the make the point that it is all too easy to blame any other race, crede or colour that is opposite to you when a crime is committed.  This was an everyday occurrance in this country in the intolerant days of my childhood and is exactly the type of comment made by Hereford Elite!!!  In other words if you are stupid and racist enough to blame "pikies" then why not blame all other "minority" groups!

If you have no evidence you cannot start accussing individuals no matter  who they are!!!!

I too have black friends, and they also still in 2008 can be picked on just as HE was picking on "pickies".  This I find highly offensive!!!!  

I hope that answers your confusion Stuart.

[stuart30]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

Too be fair Lizzie travelers or pikeys as some of us refer too them are much more likely too steal than the average man in the street.

Ive lived amongst them and trust me i have first hand knowledge of major drug dealing...numerous thefts from houses,cars and people...travelers forcing people too steal on there behalf and beating the person up if they refused.

They have zero respect for the likes of us ""Gorgers"" and zero respect for law as they live there life too there own rules....not society's.

Ive also had Gypsy as friends....totally different attitude too travelers/pikeys and they (gypsies ive met so far) despise pikeys as much as we (normal society) does.

Also as someone who is married too a coloured person i find your comparison regards colour incredibly offensive.

The point I was making Stuart is that there is no evidence that they were reponsible in this case!

In addition, if you read it again, my comment on blacks, in line with Irish and Jews was made to the make the point that it is all too easy to blame any other race, crede or colour that is opposite to you when a crime is committed.  This was an everyday occurrance in this country in the intolerant days of my childhood and is exactly the type of comment made by Hereford Elite!!!  In other words if you are stupid and racist enough to blame "pikies" then why not blame all other "minority" groups!

If you have no evidence you cannot start accussing individuals no matter  who they are!!!!

I too have black friends, and they also still in 2008 can be picked on just as HE was picking on "pickies".  This I find highly offensive!!!!  

I hope that answers your confusion Stuart.

Yes lizzie i understand where your coming from...

But and its a big but....i don't feel HE should be bashed for using the term pikey....as previously said these people tend too live beyond the law,so people who are of a poor character are often referred too as ""pikeys"" so its possible this is what HE meant.

Oh and id hardly call travelers a minority....especially when the dirty filthy robbing gits move there wagons in on land thats not theres.....seems an endless amount of them.

[FRE07962128]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

Too be fair Lizzie travelers or pikeys as some of us refer too them are much more likely too steal than the average man in the street.

Ive lived amongst them and trust me i have first hand knowledge of major drug dealing...numerous thefts from houses,cars and people...travelers forcing people too steal on there behalf and beating the person up if they refused.

They have zero respect for the likes of us ""Gorgers"" and zero respect for law as they live there life too there own rules....not society's.

Ive also had Gypsy as friends....totally different attitude too travelers/pikeys and they (gypsies ive met so far) despise pikeys as much as we (normal society) does.

Also as someone who is married too a coloured person i find your comparison regards colour incredibly offensive.

The point I was making Stuart is that there is no evidence that they were reponsible in this case!

In addition, if you read it again, my comment on blacks, in line with Irish and Jews was made to the make the point that it is all too easy to blame any other race, crede or colour that is opposite to you when a crime is committed.  This was an everyday occurrance in this country in the intolerant days of my childhood and is exactly the type of comment made by Hereford Elite!!!  In other words if you are stupid and racist enough to blame "pikies" then why not blame all other "minority" groups!

If you have no evidence you cannot start accussing individuals no matter  who they are!!!!

I too have black friends, and they also still in 2008 can be picked on just as HE was picking on "pickies".  This I find highly offensive!!!!  

I hope that answers your confusion Stuart.

Yes lizzie i understand where your coming from...

But and its a big but....i don't feel HE should be bashed for using the term pikey....as previously said these people tend too live beyond the law,so people who are of a poor character are often referred too as ""pikeys"" so its possible this is what HE meant.

Oh and id hardly call travelers a minority....especially when the dirty filthy robbing gits move there wagons in on land thats not theres.....seems an endless amount of them.

Yes and I really do understand where you are coming from about "pikies" Stuart!

However, it cannot be right to openly accuse them, or anyone else, without evidence, no matter what their track record maybe (yes, I know it is not good).   It could have been any filthy criminal who undertook these thefts.

[stuart30]

rather pikies

Yes, the people who did this, and other such acts like stealing from charities are scum, and will one day have to account for their appalling actions.

However, how do you know it was "pikies" HE?   I think that is far too strong without evidence; why don't you blame the blacks, or the Irish, or even better the Jews?!   It is very easy to sling mud with stupid offensive talk, and could prove more damaging and sinful than the original crime itself!

If you have such thoughts, keep them to yourself please HE!

Too be fair Lizzie travelers or pikeys as some of us refer too them are much more likely too steal than the average man in the street.

Ive lived amongst them and trust me i have first hand knowledge of major drug dealing...numerous thefts from houses,cars and people...travelers forcing people too steal on there behalf and beating the person up if they refused.

They have zero respect for the likes of us ""Gorgers"" and zero respect for law as they live there life too there own rules....not society's.

Ive also had Gypsy as friends....totally different attitude too travelers/pikeys and they (gypsies ive met so far) despise pikeys as much as we (normal society) does.

Also as someone who is married too a coloured person i find your comparison regards colour incredibly offensive.

The point I was making Stuart is that there is no evidence that they were reponsible in this case!

In addition, if you read it again, my comment on blacks, in line with Irish and Jews was made to the make the point that it is all too easy to blame any other race, crede or colour that is opposite to you when a crime is committed.  This was an everyday occurrance in this country in the intolerant days of my childhood and is exactly the type of comment made by Hereford Elite!!!  In other words if you are stupid and racist enough to blame "pikies" then why not blame all other "minority" groups!

If you have no evidence you cannot start accussing individuals no matter  who they are!!!!

I too have black friends, and they also still in 2008 can be picked on just as HE was picking on "pickies".  This I find highly offensive!!!!  

I hope that answers your confusion Stuart.

Yes lizzie i understand where your coming from...

But and its a big but....i don't feel HE should be bashed for using the term pikey....as previously said these people tend too live beyond the law,so people who are of a poor character are often referred too as ""pikeys"" so its possible this is what HE meant.

Oh and id hardly call travelers a minority....especially when the dirty filthy robbing gits move there wagons in on land thats not theres.....seems an endless amount of them.

Yes and I really do understand where you are coming from about "pikies" Stuart!

However, it cannot be right to openly accuse them, or anyone else, without evidence, no matter what their track record maybe (yes, I know it is not good).   It could have been any filthy criminal who undertook these thefts.

Well yes you have a point...its just depends on how much we read into it.

Like i said its possible HE simply meant pikey aka naughty robber type person as i think the majority would agree that pikeys are filthy robbing types...