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Corsa C rear brake problem
« on: 02 November 2018, 11:49:16 »
Mini Me's corsa decided to pop the drivers side, rear brake cylinder and empty the brake fluid all over a carpark in town  >:(

Now that side is the one with slightly dodgy bearing and also the drum is stuck on the shaft.

I haven't a tool to draw the drum off so what's the best / quickest way to get the thing stripped down so I can rebuild the brakes.


I'm thinking either destroying the bearing cage with a blowtorch and smashing f**k out of it until it falls apart

OR

Disconnecting the handbrake cable / brake pipe and removing the 4 bolts which hold the hub onto the axel, removing the full drum assembly and abusing it in the relative comfort of the shed with various power tools until its apart  :D

New drums, shoes, cylinders, bearings on order regardless so both sides are going to be rebuilt ................


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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #1 on: 02 November 2018, 12:27:40 »
Wouldn't the application of heat help in getting the drum off -obviously after backing the handbrake shoes right off?Are there no tool hire places round your neck of the woods where you could hire a puller for a day/weekend/week?
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #2 on: 02 November 2018, 12:32:48 »
I would opt for plan B if using the wheel for leverage (27mm nut removed) is not fruitful
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did you buy drums with bearings fitted or have you got that headache too  :P
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #3 on: 02 November 2018, 12:33:53 »
For a job like this, I prefer percussive maintenance
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #4 on: 02 November 2018, 13:23:26 »
Quote from: BazaJT on 02 November 2018, 12:27:40
Wouldn't the application of heat help in getting the drum off -obviously after backing the handbrake shoes right off?Are there no tool hire places round your neck of the woods where you could hire a puller for a day/weekend/week?



I've got about half a can of gas left and with about half of pint of brake fluid been spun about in there, it may come off easier then the last attempt so fingers crossed  :y

Not looked into a puller yet.

Due to this job, i've not had time as we only got the car home yesterday  :(
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #5 on: 02 November 2018, 13:29:58 »
Quote from: dave the builder on 02 November 2018, 12:32:48
I would opt for plan B if using the wheel for leverage (27mm nut removed) is not fruitful
clicky help video

did you buy drums with bearings fitted or have you got that headache too  :P



Tried all that lot in the video last month when I tried to strip it down for a hand brake cable change / MOT time with little success  :(

The lad has a kit ordered off eBay which comes with 2 drums c/w abs rings.
A pair of bearings (not fitted but i've done the passenger side before with no problem)
A nail / spring kit
A full set of shoes.
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #6 on: 02 November 2018, 13:31:18 »
Quote from: deviator on 02 November 2018, 12:33:53
For a job like this, I prefer percussive maintenance


So do I  :-X ;D
I fact it was probably my enthusiasm with made the bearing noisy in the first place  :D :D
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #7 on: 03 November 2018, 13:37:11 »
What DOT brake fluid is needed for this corsa ?
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #8 on: 03 November 2018, 13:41:02 »
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 03 November 2018, 13:37:11
What DOT brake fluid is needed for this corsa ?

DOT 4 is plenty good enough :y
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #9 on: 03 November 2018, 13:41:37 »
Quote from: henryd on 03 November 2018, 13:41:02
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 03 November 2018, 13:37:11
What DOT brake fluid is needed for this corsa ?

DOT 4 is plenty good enough :y



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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #10 on: 06 November 2018, 15:37:27 »
Okay, this is turning into a total nightmare  >:(
After 2 hours sat on the wet grass before rain stopped play, I have managed to get about 2 or 3 mm play on the drum.
No about of heat from my blowtorch is going to help this fcucker  :(
Don't have any other source of heat  :(
The back plate is now split open due to me managing to get a pry bar in there  :(

Whats the best way forwards lads ?

Is it just a case of removing the bottom shock bolt, asociated pipes and plugs and 4 bolts to remove the complete unit off the axel ?

Local engineering firm has new owners who ain't interested so its either remove and try to strip in the shed OR replace the back plate and axel shaft and build up with new iner bits and new drum  :-\
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #11 on: 06 November 2018, 15:53:39 »
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #12 on: 06 November 2018, 15:57:34 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 06 November 2018, 15:53:39
Can you unbolt the stub axle from behind?

Failing that...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-VAUXHALL-CORSA-C-1796cc-Petrol-Manual-Rear-Dead-Axle-with-ABS-Tag-425538/362477271456?epid=21025454331&hash=item54655439a0:g:a8gAAOSwv1db3MqN:rk:12:pf:0 :-\



That's my thinking Al  :y

Maybe I can abuse it until it falls apart once its on the ground :-\

OR if I can find a stub axel and rebuild it with the new parts we have bought  :-\
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #13 on: 06 November 2018, 15:59:13 »
Subframe off is only a handful of bolts, and with a disc conversion, could make life a lot easier going forward ;)
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Re: Corsa C rear brake problem
« Reply #14 on: 06 November 2018, 16:01:33 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 06 November 2018, 15:59:13
Subframe off is only a handful of bolts, and with a disc conversion, could make life a lot easier going forward ;)

Thought of that BUT Mini Me has just blown 150 quid on 2 new drums, bearings, set of shoes and a pair of new cylinders  :-\
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