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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #15 on: 18 May 2019, 14:03:14 »
I have some UV dye ordered. Where is the best place to look to see if it is the oil cooler plate or the coolant bridge seals? As I cannot see any drips, or patches of wet on the ground under the car.

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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #16 on: 18 May 2019, 14:15:45 »
Use an inspection mirror and a torch. You can get them a lot cheaper.
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #17 on: 18 May 2019, 14:25:20 »
Sorry for all the questions, would i be looking down the back of the plenum area from the top of engine, or from under the car?

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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #18 on: 18 May 2019, 14:27:26 »
For coolant leaks a cheaper and easier method than UV dye and torches is simply bright yellow food colouring ! Stick a decent amount in the tank and run the engine .. the  bright yellow is easily seen with the naked eye, and it tends to dry to a solid "streak" enabling leaks to be spotted quite easily .. also flushes out/washes off easily when the problem is solved  :)
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #19 on: 18 May 2019, 14:39:15 »
I had a lead a few years ago - was the oil cooler plate.  Used to drip at the back of the bell housing and drip off the very bottom where there are a couple of bolts. Only did it when started to cool down after 20 mins or so (assumption being some things stayed warmer for longer !)

Clean up and new gasket/seal and jobs a good en, with new Dowty washers just in case.

Hope you get it sorted.

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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #20 on: 18 May 2019, 14:45:27 »
Thanks for all the help. Gives me places to start looking.  Isn't liquid food colourant derived from petroleum, a crude oil product, which also happens to be used in gasoline, diesel fuel, asphalt, and tar? So is it still ok to put say maybe 2-3 small bottles of a bright yellow in the coolant system? As said I do have the UV dye on its way, but am happy to throw some food dye in aswell for good measure.
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #21 on: 18 May 2019, 15:10:21 »
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« Reply #22 on: 18 May 2019, 15:12:01 »
I not getting it untill I need it but, just checking prices incase.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Vauxhall-Oil-Cooler-Radiator-Signum-Vectra-Omega-V6-2-5-2-6-3-0-3-2/273810477027

Found the banjo bolts on Auto vaux
https://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_OIL_COOLER_FEED_PIPE_HOLLOW_BOLT_-_90424578.html
unless someone knows cheaper.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-SEAL-RING-GENUINE-NEW-11076852-/152313065973?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1 4 of these needed

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-SEAL-RING-GENUINE-NEW-90409175/162424645406?epid=2229758968&hash=item25d143671e:g:X6kAAOSw32lYwY4S 4 of these needed.

Do I need to get the following?
12992646 HOLLOW CHANNEL BOLT FOR COOLER BRIDGE
12992647 COOLER BRIDGE SEAL

Is the gasket sealent any grey make or is it a special one? Also what seals, gaskets are needed to refit the plenum, and inlet bridge?

Thanks again for the help.
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #23 on: 18 May 2019, 15:13:35 »
How many of those bottles did you use, did the gel dissolve ok?

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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #24 on: 18 May 2019, 15:18:03 »
Not quite a full bottle, nicked it from the wife's larder :) dissolved in a bit of hot water first, emptied the header tank, filled it, ran engine until the thermostat opened at which point my leak was instantly obvious, a tiny split in a hose, the yellow oozing out was obvious. Since used the same technique on an HBV, a leaking radiator and a leaking heater matrix (not all my cars though!) .. the heater matrix only became obvious when the passenger carpet started to show an ominous yellow stain .......   :)
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #25 on: 18 May 2019, 15:21:35 »
Thats great, will look in wifes baking cupboard. If not will blag her to get some, so I can use half of it.  Not much left in my coolant tank most days.LOL
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #26 on: 18 May 2019, 16:54:09 »
Quote from: addy on 17 May 2019, 20:14:26
roughly between 4 to 6 pints. Hot weather it needs more.

'Kin 'Ell Addy  :o :o :o   . . . thought a leak like that would be visible . :o :o :o

Also my advice NOT to start buying parts until you know what the problem is.

Dye method should see you right in locating it  . . . :y :y :y
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #27 on: 18 May 2019, 17:01:16 »
Quote from: addy on 18 May 2019, 14:03:14
I have some UV dye ordered. Where is the best place to look to see if it is the oil cooler plate or the coolant bridge seals? As I cannot see any drips, or patches of wet on the ground under the car.

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Plenum, inlet manifold and sandwich plate off to access them. Use the dye first though as it will save a lot of possibly needless aggro.
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #28 on: 18 May 2019, 22:55:56 »
Alnico Blue, I know it is alot, I am assuming due to no signs of any coolant on the floor that it is just evapourating on something hot?

I am not buying anything until I hopefully can find the problem, just looking at price of stuff.
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Re: coolant leak loss but cannot see where from. 2.6 Engine
« Reply #29 on: 19 May 2019, 08:02:13 »
Quote from: addy on 18 May 2019, 14:25:20
Sorry for all the questions, would i be looking down the back of the plenum area from the top of engine, or from under the car?

Thanks
Addy
If it's a leaking HBV, look under the car. I have had several fail, and got a drip every 2 or 3 seconds. It only leaks when system is hot and pressurised, and in the leaky setting (MAX or MIN). If set in AUTO it will leak irregularly.
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