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[Varche]

Just a thought, why isn't the government spending money on permanent measures.

The initial cost would be far less than the misery and clear up costs and insurance claims.

[scimmy_man]

why dont the insurance companys pay?

a local village have installed their own flood defence to protect 7 houses.

[Bigron]

Because that is not what insurance companies do; they only make money - for themselves! 

Ron.

[STEMO]

Just a thought, why isn't the government spending money on permanent measures.

The initial cost would be far less than the misery and clear up costs and insurance claims.

Because there are no permanent measures. The more you try to contain water, the higher it rises, just like in your bath. And, just as in your bath, once it gets high enough to top your defences, you need an overflow to take it away.....to where? Somewhere where it will flood someone else.

[Varche]

Well just watching the news and some marvellous and expensive kit is being put in place with help from the armed forces. Why not build a concrete retaining wall with waterproof gates within for normal pedestrian access?

The Dutch claimed land back from the North Sea permanently decades ago. We need to do the same  with for example a dam across the Wash extending ten miles either side to protect villages and valuable farmland and create fresh water for theSouth East.

It is easy to sit back and say the flood will just be moved elsewhere so why bother. How about building soakaways to replace the concerted over flood plains that councils ( government)  foolishly granted planning permission on.? How about dredging silted up waterways? The problem isn't going away regardless of whether climate change is man made or not.

[STEMO]

Well just watching the news and some marvellous and expensive kit is being put in place with help from the armed forces. Why not build a concrete retaining wall with waterproof gates within for normal pedestrian access?

The Dutch claimed land back from the North Sea permanently decades ago. We need to do the same  with for example a dam across the Wash extending ten miles either side to protect villages and valuable farmland and create fresh water for theSouth East.

It is easy to sit back and say the flood will just be moved elsewhere so why bother. How about building soakaways to replace the concerted over flood plains that councils ( government)  foolishly granted planning permission on.? How about dredging silted up waterways? The problem isn't going away regardless of whether climate change is man made or not.

You're right. The problem isn't going away....ever. Neither is the climate change that causes it. Our pathetic attempts at reducing our carbon footprint are doomed to failure. The only way to stop the world from becoming a really inhospitable place to live is to cull about three billion people.
I am under no illusions about where we are going, but it won't happen in my lifetime.

[Bigron]

IF co2 is the enemy (many contend that it is not), then watching the "Inside the Cocacola Factory" programme recently amazed me with how much co2 they release into the atmosphere; not only in production, but massively more when the bottles and cans are opened. Should we ban fizzy drinks?
Then of course there is all that methane that vegetarians produce.....

Ron.

[Raeturbo]

Yes nice one Ron, vegans fart too That would probably shook our Greta🤭😲

[Rangie]

Really feel for the folk affected by this , but imagine that they are fighting a losing battle against the elements, as well as seeing the value of their homes plummet.

[Varche]

See my reply above. The local councils ( government) gave permission to build on flood plains. People buy in good faith or perhaps without doing research. Having bought are they then condemned to live in a property that is going to flood regularly with ever increasing insurance premiums? These are fellow citizens.

I still maintain more could be done at not much money compared to pie in the sky multi billion projects.

[STEMO]

See my reply above. The local councils ( government) gave permission to build on flood plains. People buy in good faith or perhaps without doing research. Having bought are they then condemned to live in a property that is going to flood regularly with ever increasing insurance premiums? These are fellow citizens.

I still maintain more could be done at not much money compared to pie in the sky multi billion projects.

It's not the people on the flood plains who are being flooded right now, it's the people who live in the Calder Valley, the operative word being valley.

[Varche]

Fair enough , I still maintain the authorities have a responsibility to act rather than react too late.. the exception being 100 year events which are difficult as opposed to impossible to react to.

Anything we see on news coverage made of metal/ scaffold triangles ought to be installed sympathetically as concrete structures. Cheap fix.

[Doctor Gollum]

Don't ignore the fact that the council sold most of the shingle from the beach to building contractors

The Environment Agency don't have any money as they spent their entire budget protecting Boston of all places.

[STEMO]

I thought storm Dennis was gonna be a damp squib, but it's just hit and the rain is horizontal.

[Raeturbo]

Yes nice one Ron, vegans fart too That would probably shock our Greta🤭😲