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[Marks DTM Calib]

You will find an example of that with very car brand and every model. Quite how they bricked a dual bank NFS module though...

[Viral_Jim]

I did wonder, particularly as I thought they all got OTA updates now, or is that not true for the good ol' US of A?

[Marks DTM Calib]

I did wonder, particularly as I thought they all got OTA updates now, or is that not true for the good ol' US of A?

Its true for USA, couple of countries don't allow it (Jordan, Egypt and a few other minor places), think at least two full campaigns have been pushed already

We are aware of a few people who make their living by producing blogs and You Tube videos about their 'bad' cars, they must be very unlucky 

[Kevin Wood]

Have you guys seen the TFL (non) of the defender?

https://youtu.be/BtdBunnvnq4

Synopsis:
Purchased a brand new defender, took it on a rough track/light offroading, CEL comes on, off it goes to the dealer. Dealer 'fixes' the CEL but also does a software update that bricks a module that controls the cameras, new module required.

They ask for it back to shoot some footage with the car without the onboard cameras while they wait for the module. CEL reappears at the dealer on collection. Dealer can't fix, LR bring in a specialist to address the issue, that can't fix it. Car goes to a 'technical centre', they can't yet fix it and the ECU is keeping schtum about the actual cause of the fault. Total time owned, 24 days. Total time at the dealer 21 days.

I'm glad to see that JLR are really capturing the essence of the brand in the new defender and giving purchasers that authentic LR ownership experience 

Still, at least he didn't end up stinking of EP90.

[New POD]

I can't see the new defender being very squadie friendly, or being converted to pinke spec. Let alone being hoofed out the back of a c130, landing with a whummp and being thrashed within an inch of its life..

I really don't think military vehicles is LR strategy.
The competion:

https://www.ivecodefencevehicles.com/Pages/Products/lmv.aspx



The parent company:

https://www.tatamotors.com/product/defence-combat-support-platforms-xenon-4x4-reccee/

[Sir Tigger KC]

For the cost of one of those the MOD could procure several of these, mount a machine gun in the back and TADA! you have a Technical Battle Wagon!                         

[Rangie]

For the cost of one of those the MOD could procure several of these, mount a machine gun in the back and TADA! you have a Technical Battle Wagon!                         

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Looks a nice bit of kit.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Just had a card from our local LR dealership inviting to test drive the new Defender, got to have a go but would I spend £30,000+ on one ? No way on earth , only bought odds & sods from them over the last few months must be desperate for sales.

Same here......as apparently I am a VIP guest.

The invitation usually coincides with the registration change when they have a shed load of 'baby killing' diesels they want to shift.

[TheBoy]

I too get regular letters telling me of never to be repeated offers.  Which surprises me, given my advice to the DP for a suitable location for his stock last time I was in my local JLR dealership.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I too get regular letters telling me of never to be repeated offers.  Which surprises me, given my advice to the DP for a suitable location for his stock last time I was in my local JLR dealership.

Yes....JLR are all heart.

[STEMO]

Got one from Vx yesterday. 0% finance, 12 months insurance, first MOT, 3 years servicing, all free. TBH, that's not a bad package, but I'd have to buy a brand new car to get it, and that will never happen.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Got one from Vx yesterday. 0% finance, 12 months insurance, first MOT, 3 years servicing, all free. TBH, that's not a bad package, but I'd have to buy a brand new car to get it, and that will never happen.

Yep.....a £20000 car will probably be worth about half that after 12 months, so your FREE MOT and servicing may prove to be more expensive than you would like.

[Doctor Gollum]

I too get regular letters telling me of never to be repeated offers.  Which surprises me, given my advice to the DP for a suitable location for his stock last time I was in my local JLR dealership.

If there's a remote possibility of hooking you into a finance deal and upselling a load of crap in the process, you could probably stop short of bending him over his desk before they take you of. the mailing list

[TheBoy]

I too get regular letters telling me of never to be repeated offers.  Which surprises me, given my advice to the DP for a suitable location for his stock last time I was in my local JLR dealership.

If there's a remote possibility of hooking you into a finance deal and upselling a load of crap in the process, you could probably stop short of bending him over his desk before they take you of. the mailing list

There is more chance of me blowing him than me buying a car, new or used, from the Milton Keynes branch of Strathstone

[STEMO]

Got one from Vx yesterday. 0% finance, 12 months insurance, first MOT, 3 years servicing, all free. TBH, that's not a bad package, but I'd have to buy a brand new car to get it, and that will never happen.

Yep.....a £20000 car will probably be worth about half that after 12 months, so your FREE MOT and servicing may prove to be more expensive than you would like.

A £20,000 car is a £16,666 car plus £3,333 VAT. A 6 month old, 5,000 mile example of the same car would probably be about £12,000.