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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Brother in law rang me last night and said he was thinking of buying a Range Rover but now prefers the look of the Jag equivalent.
He knows nothing about cars, and I know nothing about modern Jags, but he said he might opt for a 2.0 rather than the 3.0 and about 3 or 4 years old.
I assume that would be an F Pace ?
Anyone know what they are like ? Any particular problem areas etc. ?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Tell him to keep away from derv.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

https://youtu.be/yWh1rcvM-Y8

This is the only one to go for.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Whats wrong with the Derv ?

[STEMO]

Whats wrong with the Derv ?

Absolutely nothing, except Opti's pathological hate of diesel.

[TheBoy]

Pretty much all the F-Pace and (marginally smaller) E-Pace are diesel.

Not as capable as a Defender or full fat Range Rover off road.  But now many people need full on off road capabilities? And even less actually know how to drive (proper) off road.

The 2.0d is a Jaguar derived i4, starting at an (underpowered) 160bhp, most are the 180bhp variant. The 3.0d is the Pug/Ford dervived V6 that produces enough torque to stop the earth spinning.

There are some DPF/Oil dilution issues on some engine configurations on that platform, due to the loosely coupled cat/dpf, forcing more active regens.  That DTM fella will likely know more about which combos suffer.  That said, if a number of journeys are short (<20 miles), even if it does a proper long journey 2 or 3 times a week, a modern diesel is the wrong option...   ...irrespective of marque and model.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Whats wrong with the Derv ?

It's derv and it's derv.

Save the planet with a 5 litre  petrol V8.

[Kevin Wood]

99.99% of posts on Jaguar forums relate to diesel engines having issues, it seems. Of course, there are probably many out there which are fine..

Not easy things, either. Timing chains, etc.

That's on top of the normal issues with modern diesels such as having to plan your movements around the needs of their pollution control systems if you want reliability.

I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole, but you have to go searching to find one with a proper engine, as said...

[Rangie]

Only thing that should come in 2 litres is milk & juice.

[Viral_Jim]

3.0d can also suffer snapped crankshafts. JLR keep saying the issue has now gone away, until it hasn't (again).

[Doctor Gollum]

3.0d can also suffer snapped crankshafts. JLR keep saying the issue has now gone away, until it hasn't (again).

Is that the same problem that the 2.7 doesn't suffer from

[Rangie]

3.0d can also suffer snapped crankshafts. JLR keep saying the issue has now gone away, until it hasn't (again).

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The RR & RRS forums are full of unhappy V6 owners with low mileage vehicles with crankshaft woes steer clear.

[Viral_Jim]

3.0d can also suffer snapped crankshafts. JLR keep saying the issue has now gone away, until it hasn't (again).

Is that the same problem that the 2.7 doesn't suffer from

Thats the very one. 

The RR & RRS forums are full of unhappy V6 owners with low mileage vehicles with crankshaft woes steer clear.

I've also read about plenty which JLR won't cover under their own extended warranty programme because its a known fault. 

[Rangie]

3.0d can also suffer snapped crankshafts. JLR keep saying the issue has now gone away, until it hasn't (again).

Is that the same problem that the 2.7 doesn't suffer from

Thats the very one. 

The RR & RRS forums are full of unhappy V6 owners with low mileage vehicles with crankshaft woes steer clear.

I've also read about plenty which JLR won't cover under their own extended warranty programme because its a known fault. 

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But people still keep buying them , absolutely crazy ! They come on the forum & are warned about them buy one & then are on tenterhooks about the crankshaft issues, you simply can't help some people..😄

[STEMO]

Petition going here:

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/en-gb/535/903/886/land-rover-sdv6-amp-tdv6-crank-failure/