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Battlebus (not) Starting
« on: 13 August 2021, 09:25:58 »

This is a different issue to the lack of working glowplugs ;D

When parked uphill overnight, it tends to die a few seconds after starting, and makes it a right pig to start again.  Parked downhill, its much better :).

I'm thinking leak off pipes, but a quick glance, the *look* ok.  Would I see diesel around them if they leaked?
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #1 on: 13 August 2021, 09:30:47 »

They tend to let air in rather than diesel out, classic symptoms though !!
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #2 on: 13 August 2021, 09:37:34 »

They tend to let air in rather than diesel out, classic symptoms though !!
Ah, right, understood.

Is it worth replacing the T pieces, or inspect them first before spending £25 on a set (genuine, as cant find any specs to get pattern).

As to the pipework, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pearl-PDP03-Diesel-Vauxhall-Vectra/dp/B006I53DF0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 looks cheap and nasty at under £4 delivered, or the genuine GM is £16 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284044184883?epid=13020061735&hash=item42225a4d33:g:OFcAAOSwtsNfhazf ?
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #3 on: 13 August 2021, 10:11:52 »

Yep as Henry said you've got air getting in and the diesels draining back.  :y

I had exact same symptoms on the Mondeo a few years ago after the local garage serviced it.  Turned out they hadn't reconnected one of the fuel pipes into the fuel filter properly.  ::)

Thinking about it I had the same on an old Merc C250TD workhorse I had as well.  IIRC I followed Mr DTM's favourite methodology of randomly changing parts (fuel pipes and joints) until I solved the problem.  ;D
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #4 on: 13 August 2021, 10:36:19 »

They tend to let air in rather than diesel out, classic symptoms though !!
Ah, right, understood.

Is it worth replacing the T pieces, or inspect them first before spending £25 on a set (genuine, as cant find any specs to get pattern).

As to the pipework, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pearl-PDP03-Diesel-Vauxhall-Vectra/dp/B006I53DF0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 looks cheap and nasty at under £4 delivered, or the genuine GM is £16 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284044184883?epid=13020061735&hash=item42225a4d33:g:OFcAAOSwtsNfhazf ?

The amazon one:
"Honestly the cheapest looking hose I've ever seen. It's 1/3rd the wall thickness you get with OEM hoses or ones purchased from the likes of Halfords or Euro Car Parts"
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #5 on: 13 August 2021, 11:29:44 »

I had noted that on the reviews ;D
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #6 on: 13 August 2021, 11:31:00 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #7 on: 13 August 2021, 11:37:49 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
I suppose the cheap option would prove it.  As it seems to be difficult to prove it is the leak-offs, last changed by that DTM fella about 5 years ago when he sorted the intakes.

That said, it looks like the bulk of the cost is in 3 t pieces needed.
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #8 on: 13 August 2021, 12:31:02 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
I suppose the cheap option would prove it.  As it seems to be difficult to prove it is the leak-offs, last changed by that DTM fella about 5 years ago when he sorted the intakes.

That said, it looks like the bulk of the cost is in 3 t pieces needed.


Why would you want to do the job twice though?
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #9 on: 13 August 2021, 12:42:12 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
I suppose the cheap option would prove it.  As it seems to be difficult to prove it is the leak-offs, last changed by that DTM fella about 5 years ago when he sorted the intakes.

That said, it looks like the bulk of the cost is in 3 t pieces needed.


Why would you want to do the job twice though?
I agree on that principle - although it looks to be a quick and easy job on it.

But you are the one who is always suggesting not using genuine parts (which are generally of a known good quality) ;)
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #10 on: 13 August 2021, 13:01:27 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
I suppose the cheap option would prove it.  As it seems to be difficult to prove it is the leak-offs, last changed by that DTM fella about 5 years ago when he sorted the intakes.

That said, it looks like the bulk of the cost is in 3 t pieces needed.


Why would you want to do the job twice though?
I agree on that principle - although it looks to be a quick and easy job on it.

But you are the one who is always suggesting not using genuine parts (which are generally of a known good quality) ;)
We're talking pennies, tight arse. Just do whatevers quickest.
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #11 on: 13 August 2021, 13:14:10 »

What could possibly go wrong...........
I suppose the cheap option would prove it.  As it seems to be difficult to prove it is the leak-offs, last changed by that DTM fella about 5 years ago when he sorted the intakes.

That said, it looks like the bulk of the cost is in 3 t pieces needed.


Why would you want to do the job twice though?
I agree on that principle - although it looks to be a quick and easy job on it.

But you are the one who is always suggesting not using genuine parts (which are generally of a known good quality) ;)
We're talking pennies, tight arse. Just do whatevers quickest.

Not everyone is blessed with unlimited wealth, like you. :)
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #12 on: 13 August 2021, 15:09:13 »

Can you still get parts for a car that old?  :D
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #13 on: 13 August 2021, 16:35:53 »

Can you still get parts for a car that old?  :D
Its younger than all but the last of the Omegas ;)
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Re: Battlebus (not) Starting
« Reply #14 on: 13 August 2021, 17:01:27 »

Can you still get parts for a car that old?  :D
they don't need parts very often
much like astra G , cheap to run , no resale value though
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