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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's The WHO I am concerned about.

They stopped making records years ago.

You should bone up on this topic.

The WHO is essentially funded by the Chinese and Bill Gates. It is totally undemocratic and like the EU on steroids. I'm amazed how much power government(s) are willing to give away.

Probably, but absolutely nothing to do with the link I posted. Get your own thread.

You know as well as me that an OOF thread can can from a Devon cream tea to the female orgasm*.

*Vagina variant.

[STEMO]

Read it all, had a couple of extra beers & trying not to worry about it too much .👍

Not really a worrying item, just proof, if we needed it, that Napoleon was right when he said we were a nation of shopkeepers. Always trying to save a few bob today, and letting tomorrow look after itself.

[STEMO]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

[dave the builder]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

Maybe Vlad will press the reset button for us 

[STEMO]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

Maybe Vlad will press the reset button for us 

You really should get out more, Dave. Wearing your mask and tin foil hat, of course.

[dave the builder]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

Maybe Vlad will press the reset button for us 

You really should get out more, Dave. Wearing your mask and tin foil hat, of course.

Na , it's too "peopley" outside 

[Doctor Gollum]

To say that the US moved on long ago isn't strictly accurate...

Unless by 'moved on' they meant carried on regardless... 

Inside Job and The Big Short, both currently on Netflix, reach fundamentally the same conclusion on the matter...

Nothing changed.

I think they're saying the US moved on from having to support the economy/banks.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are still federally bankrolled (which is why it is possible to leave university with hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans), and the banks that were bailed out never had to repay a penny and all their CEOs/former CEOs either run or consult on all federal financial bodies.

This is also why I have a fairly low opinion of JP Morgan Chase et al.

Not one person responsible for the events that led to the 2008 crash even had to repay their bonuses, let alone bear responsibility, and the only two people actually held accountable were two Credit Suisse traders who hadn't actually done anything related to what really happened.

[Doctor Gollum]

Actually, that's not quite fair...

When the tax payers bailed out AIG, AIG was forced to repay what it owed to (then) Morgan Stanley at 100¢ on the dollar. Using tax payers money.

The architect of that deal? Hank Paulson, George W's Treasury Secretary, former CEO of MorganStanley and one of the founding fathers of the whole cluster fluck 

[Rangie]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

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Read an article a few years ago about modernising our railways the best way forward would be double decker carriages so more people could be carried, but unfortunately with our dated railway system incorporating tunnels it would be financially impossible.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

.

Read an article a few years ago about modernising our railways the best way forward would be double decker carriages so more people could be carried, but unfortunately with our dated railway system incorporating tunnels it would be financially impossible.

I think every public service system is dated in this country.

The NHS was founded in 1948 by the Attlee led Labour government. It was the future and the envy of the world for 20 years or so. Now it seems hopelessly dated and not fit for the 21st century.

I know it is a sacred cow but I think we need to start again from scratch.

[Lizzie Zoom]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

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Read an article a few years ago about modernising our railways the best way forward would be double decker carriages so more people could be carried, but unfortunately with our dated railway system incorporating tunnels it would be financially impossible.

That was in fact tried back in the late 1940’s on the Southern Region, with a full set of the coaches still in use into 1971 when I last saw them at Charing Cross Station.  The trouble was, with our commuter rail traffic were speed is everything, the experiment was deemed a failure as it took long for the passengers to disembark, then embark, due to the double layers of passenger space.

Please see:
https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+region+double+decker+train&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB590GB592&oq=southern+double+passenger&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0i546l4.15643j1j7&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[ronnyd]

It's The WHO I am concerned about.

They stopped making records years ago.

Yeah, Daltry's voice is total shit now too. 

[dave the builder]

It's The WHO I am concerned about.

They stopped making records years ago.

Yeah, Daltry's voice is total shit now too. 

He is rather OLD    probably not got the strength to pull back the plunger on the pinball machine anymore 

[Doctor Gollum]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

.

Read an article a few years ago about modernising our railways the best way forward would be double decker carriages so more people could be carried, but unfortunately with our dated railway system incorporating tunnels it would be financially impossible.

That was in fact tried back in the late 1940’s on the Southern Region, with a full set of the coaches still in use into 1971 when I last saw them at Charing Cross Station.  The trouble was, with our commuter rail traffic were speed is everything, the experiment was deemed a failure as it took long for the passengers to disembark, then embark, due to the double layers of passenger space.

Please see:
https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+region+double+decker+train&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB590GB592&oq=southern+double+passenger&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0i546l4.15643j1j7&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Not surprised that design didn't catch on. Had one had a noteworthy accident, they would have been scrapped much sooner.

[Lizzie Zoom]

That's why our public services, our railways, our national health service, etc., are in such a bad way. We try to make do with throwing good money after bad, spending as little as possible on sticking plasters, instead of ripping it all up and starting again.

.

Read an article a few years ago about modernising our railways the best way forward would be double decker carriages so more people could be carried, but unfortunately with our dated railway system incorporating tunnels it would be financially impossible.

That was in fact tried back in the late 1940’s on the Southern Region, with a full set of the coaches still in use into 1971 when I last saw them at Charing Cross Station.  The trouble was, with our commuter rail traffic were speed is everything, the experiment was deemed a failure as it took long for the passengers to disembark, then embark, due to the double layers of passenger space.

Please see:
https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+region+double+decker+train&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB590GB592&oq=southern+double+passenger&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0i546l4.15643j1j7&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Not surprised that design didn't catch on. Had one had a noteworthy accident, they would have been scrapped much sooner.

Indeed, Health & Safety today would never approve them