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[STEMO]

It's like saying there are 5.26 popes per square mile in Vatican City. Ridiculous, but news channels love to quote such crap.

[TheBoy]

If you've got 100 workers on £100 a week and two bosses on £5K a week, the the average wage at that company is around £200 a week. But, of course, no one is on anything like £200 a week. That's taking it to the extreme, but averages don't work.

And there is no bell curve, apparently.

But taking your example is precisely the reason why the RMT (other onions available) shouldn't be demanding an across the board pay rise.  But railway workers are still in the stone age.

[Viral_Jim]

But taking your example is precisely the reason why the RMT (other onions available) shouldn't be demanding an across the board pay rise.  But railway workers are still in the stone age.

This.

Arguing for blanket pay rises on the basis of cost of living increases is as stupid as the argument that increased use of technology automatically leads to job losses, but both are trotted out regularly as 'accepted fact' by the union pr!cks.

[Viral_Jim]

Again reported on the Beeb, so make of that what you will, but it seems Unite have rejected a pay rise of 4% plus one-off £2000 cost of living 'bonus' for Rolls Royce workers.   

[Doctor Gollum]

So all the employees end up with is fewer jobs to pay for it. Flecking retards. Although they keep buying into the BS, so perhaps they deserve the inevitable 

[Sir Tigger KC]

The last train I was on was a steam train on the East Lancs Railway ..... and it will be the next time I'm on a train.

Train travel is expensive & isn't door to door like a car is.

The last time I got on a train was last November for a day trip to London from Axminster, Devon and the ticket was about £86 for a trip that's about 2 hrs 45 mins each way. 

Plus £6.50ish for car parking at the station and whatever the Travelcard was when I got to Londinium. About £12.50 I think? 

Shame as I like getting on the choo choo!                                                     

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

It's like saying there are 5.26 popes per square mile in Vatican City. Ridiculous, but news channels love to quote such crap.

Theres lies, theres damned lies, and then theres statistics.  Which is why the news channels with an agenda love to use statistics. 

[Raeturbo]

Us poor sub contractors get fu.ck all🙁

[Andy B]

Again reported on the Beeb, so make of that what you will, but it seems Unite have rejected a pay rise of 4% plus one-off £2000 cost of living 'bonus' for Rolls Royce workers. 

The Union has or the members have?
When our Unite union reps when in for our pay deal last week, they came out with what the company have offered and suggested that we accept it. We'll be voting yeah or nay this coming week.

When Heinz offered £140M investment last year (with strings attached) the union suggested we accepted it. The work force said no.

[Doctor Gollum]

How much of the £140m were the union going to see? Obviously the members wouldn't. 

[Andy B]

How much of the £140m were the union going to see? Obviously the members wouldn't. 

It was investment in the factory at Kitt Green, bringing sauce back amongst other things, but at the expense of Ts & Cs ..... SFA to do with the union.

[Doctor Gollum]

How much of the £140m were the union going to see? Obviously the members wouldn't. 

It was investment in the factory at Kitt Green, bringing sauce back amongst other things, but at the expense of Ts & Cs ..... SFA to do with the union.

Then why were they pushing for it?

[Viral_Jim]

Judging by this quote, the Union didn't like the deal:

"The revised offer still falls a long way short of the cost of living crisis claim submitted by our members and their expectations. Unite senior reps are in discussions to decide next steps,"

4% uplift and a £2k bonus doesn't meet this year's cost of living uplift?! Unite must think we all came down with the last shower.

[Raeturbo]

Us poor sub contractors get fu.ck all🙁

[Andy B]

How much of the £140m were the union going to see? Obviously the members wouldn't. 

It was investment in the factory at Kitt Green, bringing sauce back amongst other things, but at the expense of Ts & Cs ..... SFA to do with the union.

Then why were they pushing for it?

They didn't. Company offered investment on the back of other terms & consulted union. Union thought it was OK and recommended the workers to accept it. Workers oppsed it off because they didn't like the change in Ts & Cs if they'd have said yes!