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[Mr Skrunts]

Just been looking at the Skoda Superbs

Fuel type Petrol Plug-in Hybrid
Range80 miles
Body type Estate
Engine1.5L
Gearbox Automatic
Average    681.30 mpg##

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202412187379441?sort=mileage&searchId=7a695370-925b-406a-8348-0ae34ff48d99&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&body-type=Saloon&colour=Blue&colour=Grey&colour=Silver&fuel-consumption=OVER_60&fuel-type=Petrol%20Plug-in%20Hybrid&make=Skoda&model=Superb&postcode=S66%207LF&year-from=2022&fromsra 

Might go have a test drive 

[YZ250]

It’s a big car, built on the same platform as the Audi A6 Avant I believe, but then stretched a little. Being a Skoda it will have more toys in than an Audi A6 as Audi are so tight with gadgets so they can charge you for everything as an option. 
I actually looked at a Sport Line before buying my Audi Avant.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I wonder when car companies will start building screens into the dash rather than sticking them on with duck tape and super glue? 

[Viral_Jim]

I wonder when car companies will start building screens into the dash rather than sticking them on with duck tape and super glue? 

Is it because if you buy them in another market (china/India for example) you get a smaller/no screen  . Lazy design either way.

Perhaps our JLR technology correspondent can offer some insight...

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its the sheer size, we always had integrated screens which sat within the IP shape, since they have headed past the 200mm mark it becomes pretty much impossible to keep them within the IP shape without compromising the likes of the HVAC (which is what takes most of the behind IP space up).

Screen size is being driven very much by the move to reduce physical switches (something I, and many others, don't like......but designers are weird and all powerful it would seem) so the real estate is being driven by the need to create large touch areas as well as supporting more complex info panels, ADAS (advanced driver assistance systems) is very much not helping here.

It may shrink a bit as the laser projection HUDs (Head Up Display) arrive and project across larger areas of the windscreen.

You really don't want to know how many display outputs I am being asked for for the 2030+ architecture!

[STEMO]

Its the sheer size, we always had integrated screens which sat within the IP shape, since they have headed past the 200mm mark it becomes pretty much impossible to keep them within the IP shape without compromising the likes of the HVAC (which is what takes most of the behind IP space up).

Screen size is being driven very much by the move to reduce physical switches (something I, and many others, don't like......but designers are weird and all powerful it would seem) so the real estate is being driven by the need to create large touch areas as well as supporting more complex info panels, ADAS (advanced driver assistance systems) is very much not helping here.

It may shrink a bit as the laser projection HUDs (Head Up Display) arrive and project across larger areas of the windscreen.

You really don't want to know how many display outputs I am being asked for for the 2030+ architecture!

I believe NCAP are in the process of downgrading scores for vehicles where most functions are controlled by a touch screen. It is ridiculous to expect a driver to adjust the most basic functions by taking their eyes off the road to fiddle with a central screen. Lazy design.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its the sheer size, we always had integrated screens which sat within the IP shape, since they have headed past the 200mm mark it becomes pretty much impossible to keep them within the IP shape without compromising the likes of the HVAC (which is what takes most of the behind IP space up).

Screen size is being driven very much by the move to reduce physical switches (something I, and many others, don't like......but designers are weird and all powerful it would seem) so the real estate is being driven by the need to create large touch areas as well as supporting more complex info panels, ADAS (advanced driver assistance systems) is very much not helping here.

It may shrink a bit as the laser projection HUDs (Head Up Display) arrive and project across larger areas of the windscreen.

You really don't want to know how many display outputs I am being asked for for the 2030+ architecture!

I believe NCAP are in the process of downgrading scores for vehicles where most functions are controlled by a touch screen. It is ridiculous to expect a driver to adjust the most basic functions by taking their eyes off the road to fiddle with a central screen. Lazy design.

Don't get to excited though, its only primary functions like indicators, wipers, hazards, horn etc (applies to new vehicle tests as of 2026), the other useful things like climate control etc does not apply

[Sir Tigger KC]

I dread to think what you'd find down the back of one of those screens when you get your new to you car home.  Dirty knickers..... Used condom.... 

[Nick W]

I dread to think what you'd find down the back of one of those screens when you get your new to you car home.  Dirty knickers..... Used condom.... 

4, different stockings under the back seat of one of my Capris....

[Mr Skrunts]

so rang the Skoda dealer to see what a realistic MPG would be, he suggested 120mpg and on the motorway maybe 140mpg.

So probably what was expected.

I think maybe the way figures are tested need be re-thought and same with Auto trader, to give more MPG range

Also asked regards battery warranty - Don't suppose 8 years is too shabby.  I anticipate approx 20,000 P.A. and if all goes to plan change the car maybe every 4 or 5 years.

Still looking at other options.

[STEMO]

Don't forget the extra road tax for vehicles costing more than £40,000

[Sir Tigger KC]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

Well I'm surprised and disappointed that Al hasn't come up with a string of of old jalopies for Skrunties consideration for his new business venture. 

He's not only let us down, he's let himself down!                                                                     

I'll have a go instead. Here you go Skruntie, how about this?   

I think Al will wholeheartedly approve! 

[STEMO]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

Well I'm surprised and disappointed that Al hasn't come up with a string of of old jalopies for Skrunties consideration for his new business venture. 

He's not only let us down, he's let himself down!                                                                     

I'll have a go instead. Here you go Skruntie, how about this?   

I think Al will wholeheartedly approve! 

Interesting MOT history. Can mileages actually go backwards? 

[Mr Skrunts]

Don't forget the extra road tax for vehicles costing more than £40,000

Not that much

The interesting thing was they had 3 cars at different show rooms of theirs, all the same colour and model but £8k+ variation in prices.

[Mr Skrunts]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

Well I'm surprised and disappointed that Al hasn't come up with a string of of old jalopies for Skrunties consideration for his new business venture. 

He's not only let us down, he's let himself down!                                                                     

I'll have a go instead. Here you go Skruntie, how about this?   

I think Al will wholeheartedly approve! 

Interesting, Had a look at the E class Merks but the pricing has gone silly.

Also looked at maybe 5 Series estates, or might look at what X7 are on offer.

Not making a decision till maybe late April or May time.  Still got too much to work out, one of them being commercial Insurance and wondering if I can put some of the Omega's on it.