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[Sir Tigger KC]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

Well I'm surprised and disappointed that Al hasn't come up with a string of of old jalopies for Skrunties consideration for his new business venture. 

He's not only let us down, he's let himself down!                                                                     

I'll have a go instead. Here you go Skruntie, how about this?   

I think Al will wholeheartedly approve! 

Interesting MOT history. Can mileages actually go backwards? 

Ha ha well spotted.   

I don't think a 3500 mile discrepancy on the clock is too much to worry about on a 23 year old car though, and look on the bright side it's had plenty of things fixed to get it through the MOTs! 

 

[YZ250]

Don't forget the extra road tax for vehicles costing more than £40,000

Not that much

The interesting thing was they had 3 cars at different show rooms of theirs, all the same colour and model but £8k+ variation in prices.

Be careful, as it’s the RRP of the vehicle, not what you paid for it. It would have to be a very basic spec level Skoda Superb estate MHEV to have a RRP of less than £40K, as most that I looked at just crept over that price.    What you pay for it is irrelevant if the RRP is over that figure. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

Well I'm surprised and disappointed that Al hasn't come up with a string of of old jalopies for Skrunties consideration for his new business venture. 

He's not only let us down, he's let himself down!                                                                     

I'll have a go instead. Here you go Skruntie, how about this?   

I think Al will wholeheartedly approve! 

That'll make a great dog transporter if Skrunts doesn't buy it

[Doctor Gollum]

If it's a new venture, buying a new car is just an extra expense.

Depends what you're considering doing... Been rather vague on that...

If you need a van, get a van. If you're delivering food, buy a scooter and forget all the highway code you ever read.

If you're doing hospital appointment transfers, buy a Skoda Yeti.

[YZ250]

Interesting, Had a look at the E class Mercs but the pricing has gone silly.

My neighbour has a Mercedes E220d estate, with the 2.0 diesel 9 speed auto. He reckons that on a decent run he gets 70mpg. 

…….
or might look at what X7 are on offer.

My mate has a fully restored X7 but I’m failing to see what use an old 2 stroke Suzuki would be to you.       

[Mr Skrunts]

If it's a new venture, buying a new car is just an extra expense.

Depends what you're considering doing... Been rather vague on that...

Don't know how to define it other than maybe something specialized, requiring odd long distance travel - hence I want some class and comport

If you need a van, get a van. If you're delivering food, buy a scooter and forget all the highway code you ever read.

Nothing to do with food, but a van would draw the wrong attention.

If you're doing hospital appointment transfers, buy a Skoda Yeti. nothing like that

[Mr Skrunts]

If it's a new venture, buying a new car is just an extra expense.

I was planning a newer car at least in the next year or 2.

This is an idea that once the numbers are crunched will it be worth a new or newer car or not?

The economy of the Omega could be absorbed starting a business from new as am anticipating reasonable low mileage may 4/500 miles a month if that., minimal would 60 miles a trip. once in full swing 400 miles once a week plus the 60 so say 500 weekly 25k yearly.

With all the vat  and mileage allowance on the Skoda @ 681mpg it would have paid for its self buying a new car.

[Doctor Gollum]

Don't forget depreciation. Just because you can't see it, you still pay for it.

[Doctor Gollum]

And if you're planning your budget based on pie in the sky fuel economy, you'll be unpleasantly surprised.

The fuel savings going from a 3.2 Omega to a diesel Insignia weren't enough to cover the finance. Cars now cost significantly more, so any perceived fuel cost savings are negated by higher purchase costs and proportionally greater depreciation costs.

I considered buying a Tesla Model S when they first came out to use as a taxi and for a £45k car I would have needed to clear £1k a week.

Back in 2014, £45k was alot of money, but now it's middle of the road. Be realistic and do the maths very carefully.

[STEMO]

If it's a new venture, buying a new car is just an extra expense.

I was planning a newer car at least in the next year or 2.

This is an idea that once the numbers are crunched will it be worth a new or newer car or not?

The economy of the Omega could be absorbed starting a business from new as am anticipating reasonable low mileage may 4/500 miles a month if that., minimal would 60 miles a trip. once in full swing 400 miles once a week plus the 60 so say 500 weekly 25k yearly.

With all the vat  and mileage allowance on the Skoda @ 681mpg it would have paid for its self buying a new car.

I wouldn't trust an omega to be reliable enough for a business to rely on it, low mileage or not.

[Sir Tigger KC]

If it's a new venture, buying a new car is just an extra expense.

I was planning a newer car at least in the next year or 2.

This is an idea that once the numbers are crunched will it be worth a new or newer car or not?

The economy of the Omega could be absorbed starting a business from new as am anticipating reasonable low mileage may 4/500 miles a month if that., minimal would 60 miles a trip. once in full swing 400 miles once a week plus the 60 so say 500 weekly 25k yearly.

With all the vat  and mileage allowance on the Skoda @ 681mpg it would have paid for its self buying a new car.

I wouldn't trust an omega to be reliable enough for a business to rely on it, low mileage or not.

No you're right, but he might be wise to buy a cheapish second hand diesel estate of some description first to see if the business is viable enough to warrant buying a new car. 

Depending what the business plan is of course. It might be that turning up in an old E Class might not project the correct image. 

[Doctor Gollum]

In 175k my 3.2 needed to be recovered twice, one for a clutch and once for a fuel pump.

That said, parts availability would be the biggest concern for the Omega... In that respect there are better 20 year old options.

As for image, would you rather someone in a presentable older car  knowing they're not screwing you to keep brand new metal paid for or someone in a shiny car worrying about the next payment.

[Sir Tigger KC]

In 175k my 3.2 needed to be recovered twice, one for a clutch and once for a fuel pump.

That said, parts availability would be the biggest concern for the Omega... In that respect there are better 20 year old options.

As for image, would you rather someone in a presentable older car  knowing they're not screwing you to keep brand new metal paid for or someone in a shiny car worrying about the next payment.

That simply depends on what Skrunties business plan is.

[Mr Skrunts]

And if you're planning your budget based on pie in the sky fuel economy, you'll be unpleasantly surprised.

I did the sums for a laugh based on the given MPG knowing full well 681mpg is unachievable.

After speaking to friends about their cars getting 70 & 80 mpg I was aiming to find a car giving 100mpg+  when the skoda salesman suggested it would average 120 maybe 140 on the motorway then was quite impressed.

I would be buying a car in the future so any money spent will be written off where as buying one through the business will allow some funds to be claimed back, mileage allowance, tax/vat considerations etc, so yes depreciation has to be absorbed.

[Marks DTM Calib]

It wont get nearly that, budget around a 50mpg and you might be closer to it.

Given the mpg figures are based on a handful of different drive cycles, with weighted percentages, and optimised conditions (the smallest tyres, audio off, etc etc), plus they start with a full charge, you then get the crazy mpg figures.

Unless it will be plugged in every 50 miles or so then the sky high figures are a world of dreams