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[Sir Tigger KC]

The browser....   Anyone use it?  Any good? 

www.brave.com

[TheBoy]

Its yet another Chromium based browser, so should function as well as Chrome, Edge and many others that use the Chromium browser engine.

What you trying to achieve?  Anti tracking, anti spying?  TBH, advertisers have other ways of tracking users, so you will never truly get away from it.  It can reduce certain kinds of tracking, and has an ad blocker (note, large sites that fund themselves through ads, can detect ad blockers and disallow access).

Its a freebie, give it a go, if its not working well for you, remove it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes I use an ad blocker, but as you say sites increasingly detect it and demand that I disable it for access. 

[TheBoy]

Yes I use an ad blocker, but as you say sites increasingly detect it and demand that I disable it for access. 

Absolutely.

Running internet sites is *VERY* expensive, and somehow needs to be funded.  So assuming the site isn't selling anything, that means either:

Subscription required
Ad funded
A kind benefactor/sponsor that pays for it


So for ad funded sites, using an ad blocker means stopping that income for the website owner.  Therefore I believe that website owner has every right to refuse to show the content when ad blockers are being used.

[Kevin Wood]

Yes I use an ad blocker, but as you say sites increasingly detect it and demand that I disable it for access. 

Absolutely.

Running internet sites is *VERY* expensive, and somehow needs to be funded.  So assuming the site isn't selling anything, that means either:

Subscription required
Ad funded
A kind benefactor/sponsor that pays for it


So for ad funded sites, using an ad blocker means stopping that income for the website owner.  Therefore I believe that website owner has every right to refuse to show the content when ad blockers are being used.

The internet isn't usable without an ad blocker, so they have themselves to blame if they don't get my business as a result.

[TheBoy]

Yes I use an ad blocker, but as you say sites increasingly detect it and demand that I disable it for access. 

Absolutely.

Running internet sites is *VERY* expensive, and somehow needs to be funded.  So assuming the site isn't selling anything, that means either:

Subscription required
Ad funded
A kind benefactor/sponsor that pays for it


So for ad funded sites, using an ad blocker means stopping that income for the website owner.  Therefore I believe that website owner has every right to refuse to show the content when ad blockers are being used.

The internet isn't usable without an ad blocker, so they have themselves to blame if they don't get my business as a result.

I agree some sites are unusable due to the intrusive nature of the ads.  As a rule, I choose not to use such sites.

Somebody somewhere has to pay for the stuff though, with the 3 options above being the only real options.  Don't take OOF running costs as an example, because we really are a bunch of cowboys, running on a shoestring


You can't really buy a viable server for under £10k with a realistic life of 5-7yrs, and because it's monumentally moronic to have the database internet facing, that means you need a 2nd for a database. If you're stupid enough to use MySQL for a database, then you need a 3rd to use as a replica to take backups from. Then you need backups.  All that has to be hosted somewhere, and due to near zero remaining capacity in UK data centres for CoLo, expect to pay £700+ per month per server - energy costs normally included, but network bandwidth usually not.  Then consider that most websites taking any traffic likely need multiple front end web servers, and big sites, multiple databases, it gets massively expensive very quickly. 

There still appears to be an assumption that anything on the internet should be free.