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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

........so for cars registered with a shiny new '75' plate.

Quite surprised by these figures when compared with September 2024.

Petrol.....141,308. ............Up 2.4%
Electric...72,779................Up 29.1%
Hybrids..47,883............... Up 3.5%
Plug in hybrids....38,308....Up 56.4%
Derv....12609...................Down 28.2%

I was expecting petrol to outsell milk floats by 10-1 and not 2-1.

Also, look at the number of sales for Hybrids and Plug in Hybrids. Does the £3750 government grant apply to these as well as 'full milk float' electric cars?.

[YZ250]

........so for cars registered with a shiny new '75' plate.

And here lies the problem, 'Registered', EV's, not 'sold' EV's. 
Autotrader is full of 'New' second hand EV's with around 10 miles on the clock at a reduced price. It appears to be a car manufacturers/dealers trick to reduce the amount of fines for the lack of EV's sold compared to petrol and diesel vehicles. 

Just to add, the amount of car manufacturers abandoning EV production expansion plans tells a more telling story. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

........so for cars registered with a shiny new '75' plate.

And here lies the problem, 'Registered', EV's, not 'sold' EV's. 
Autotrader is full of 'New' second hand EV's with around 10 miles on the clock at a reduced price. It appears to be a car manufacturers/dealers trick to reduce the amount of fines for the lack of EV's sold compared to petrol and diesel vehicles. 

Yep.... You make a good point. Which is why I was able to buy Mrs Opti a milk float with a 60% discount. 

I also reckon there could be some good deals on the last of the derv cars......if they want to shift them.

[YZ250]

........so for cars registered with a shiny new '75' plate.

And here lies the problem, 'Registered', EV's, not 'sold' EV's. 
Autotrader is full of 'New' second hand EV's with around 10 miles on the clock at a reduced price. It appears to be a car manufacturers/dealers trick to reduce the amount of fines for the lack of EV's sold compared to petrol and diesel vehicles. 

Yep.... You make a good point. Which is why I was able to buy Mrs Opti a milk float with a 60% discount. 

I also reckon there could be some good deals on the last of the derv cars......if they want to shift them.

That's a serious amount of discount.    This situation has put car manufacturers in an impossible position, and one they can't possibly keep up.

[Doctor Gollum]

Flooding the market with Chinesium brands that noone had heard of 18 months ago won't help anything either.

Especially when they actively bribe people to be positive and sue the naysayers into oblivion...

I wonder how long into their leases Jaecoo and Byd owners will realise they've been hoodwinked something rotten.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

........so for cars registered with a shiny new '75' plate.

And here lies the problem, 'Registered', EV's, not 'sold' EV's. 
Autotrader is full of 'New' second hand EV's with around 10 miles on the clock at a reduced price. It appears to be a car manufacturers/dealers trick to reduce the amount of fines for the lack of EV's sold compared to petrol and diesel vehicles. 

Yep.... You make a good point. Which is why I was able to buy Mrs Opti a milk float with a 60% discount. 

I also reckon there could be some good deals on the last of the derv cars......if they want to shift them.

That's a serious amount of discount.    This situation has put car manufacturers in an impossible position, and one they can't possibly keep up.

HSE model. With the options fitted around £84,000 list down to mid-high thirties including £195 for road tax.

Roughly the same as a pretty basic Kia or Chinkchariot.

[TheBoy]

I wonder how long into their leases Jaecoo and Byd owners will realise they've been hoodwinked something rotten.

The sort of people buying them are only interested in an appliance to get them to work, or to the shops, so will be content enough with them.  And probably manage broadly the reliability of the European marques.


Incidentally, we have a load of merc EVs (EQ is it?) in our wider team at work, because they were a stunning offer on our EV scheme - something like £280 before tax discounts, so potentially £160ish per month for those on 40% rate - I'm assuming because Merc couldn't shift them.  I large number of them have proved to be not as reliable as people had hoped.  The MG EVs and BYDs were also on a stinking offer shortly afterwards, and for the most part, they have seemed pretty good.  Dull and dishwater, but do what they claim.  And lets be honest, for anyone under 40, as long as it has CarPlay, nothing else matters.

[STEMO]

I wonder how long into their leases Jaecoo and Byd owners will realise they've been hoodwinked something rotten.

The sort of people buying them are only interested in an appliance to get them to work, or to the shops, so will be content enough with them.  And probably manage broadly the reliability of the European marques.


Incidentally, we have a load of merc EVs (EQ is it?) in our wider team at work, because they were a stunning offer on our EV scheme - something like £280 before tax discounts, so potentially £160ish per month for those on 40% rate - I'm assuming because Merc couldn't shift them.  I large number of them have proved to be not as reliable as people had hoped.  The MG EVs and BYDs were also on a stinking offer shortly afterwards, and for the most part, they have seemed pretty good.  Dull and dishwater, but do what they claim.  And lets be honest, for anyone under 40, as long as it has CarPlay, nothing else matters.

Ah....those stinky Chinese 

[tunnie]

Suspect a huge chunk of those EV sales are Salary Sacrifice deals.....

[TheBoy]

Suspect a huge chunk of those EV sales are Salary Sacrifice deals.....

As are a lot of the non EV ones

There is nothing special about EVs in that regard (or, at the risk of sounding like Lord Opti, any regard )

[JamesV6CDX]

And lets be honest, for anyone under 40, as long as it has CarPlay, nothing else matters.

This fills me with gratitude, that at the age of 41 and a bit, my daily driver is still an Omega V6  which can't play anything from my phone, and keeps skipping the tracks on CDs until it's warm. I am clearly just out of that age threshold 

[TheBoy]

And lets be honest, for anyone under 40, as long as it has CarPlay, nothing else matters.

This fills me with gratitude, that at the age of 41 and a bit, my daily driver is still an Omega V6  which can't play anything from my phone, and keeps skipping the tracks on CDs until it's warm. I am clearly just out of that age threshold 

You're an old man now, Mr JamesV6CDX

Just not as old as STEMO, obviously.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jaecoo.....this chinky offering often called the Temu Range Rover.

[YZ250]

Regardless of what they want us to believe regarding EV sales, the vehicle manufacturers are all pleading for this lunacy to stop. Mercedes CEO recently put out an announcement, saying that the Auto Industry will collapse if they’re forced to continue down the EV route. The whole car industry is in trouble, real trouble.

[Rangie]

Jaecoo.....this chinky offering often called the Temu Range Rover.

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Loads of them around + other Chinese lookalikes , read an article & apparently if you should happen to require spare parts they're virtually unobtainable the MGs are having a lot of complaints because when it rains water is entering the front of them & soaking carpets & causing electrical problems , the Jaecoo  just looks cheap & nasty in my opinion