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[Webby the Bear]

Hi guys, hope you’re all well.

So I’ve got loads of stuff done in the omega ready for the summer shows.

Following suspension parts being fitted it’s definitely knocked the tracking out. Went on WIM site and it appears they’re no longer going. Anybody know if they’ve moved elsewhere or that them just finito?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The chap who owned it died a while back.
Maybe it folded after that ?

[Doctor Gollum]

Try Black Boots Tyres, Chesham

https://www.protyre.co.uk/garages/black-boots-tyres-chesham-tyres-team-protyre

[Mr Skrunts]

I thought WIM set up a network through out the UK

These I thought were linked to them but not 100% sure how far they branch

https://www.blackcircles.com/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=261736696&gclid=CjwKCAiAs4HMBhBJEiwACrfNZRthIUtXvJWlYwl6OhsYMNKRstMXPuynhrmV07_jy3fKjoAG-LKPCBoC-PIQAvD_BwE

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Take the WIM settings to any place that has a Hunter alignment machine and insist they use those settings. 

[Valentin]

Hi guys, I'm looking for the correct settings too and I found this topic December 2013

https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=119981.msg1524628#msg1524628

It sais

just found my last printout.. Target values are ...

Rear camber  -2º 05' +/- 0º 40' Cross 0º 00' +/-0º 04
Rear toe   0º 00' +/- 0º 45' Total 0º 20'  +/- 0º 10'

Front camber -1º 10'  +/- 0º 45' Cross 0º 00' +/- 1º 00'
Front caster  5º 40' +/- 1º 00 cross 0º 00' +/- 1º 00''
Track Diff angle -2º 00'  +/- 0º 45'
Front Toe 0º 05' +/- 0º 05' total 0º 10' +/- 0º 10'

Because I bought the car with alignment made 3 months before based on GM values I guess, here are the front tyres after 16000kms


I will replace wishbones, drop links and rear track rods - fOr SuRe as our baguette président sais - then have to find a decent automotive geometry center.
But, are these values okay? Front camber -1º 10' seems a lot

[Webby the Bear]

The chap who owned it died a while back.
Maybe it folded after that ?

Tony Bones died? Shit didn’t know that 😢

[Webby the Bear]

Just found post from 2022 about his death. That couldn’t have been much longer after I saw him last with the omega! Shocked.

RIP. Great bloke. And Wgat he did not know about geometry wasn’t worth knowing. I remember reading though his technical papers on his website. Unfortunately no longer accessible via WIM website.

[Doctor Gollum]

Hi guys, I'm looking for the correct settings too and I found this topic December 2013

https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=119981.msg1524628#msg1524628

It sais

just found my last printout.. Target values are ...

Rear camber  -2º 05' +/- 0º 40' Cross 0º 00' +/-0º 04
Rear toe   0º 00' +/- 0º 45' Total 0º 20'  +/- 0º 10'

Front camber -1º 10'  +/- 0º 45' Cross 0º 00' +/- 1º 00'
Front caster  5º 40' +/- 1º 00 cross 0º 00' +/- 1º 00''
Track Diff angle -2º 00'  +/- 0º 45'
Front Toe 0º 05' +/- 0º 05' total 0º 10' +/- 0º 10'

Because I bought the car with alignment made 3 months before based on GM values I guess, here are the front tyres after 16000kms


I will replace wishbones, drop links and rear track rods - fOr SuRe as our baguette président sais - then have to find a decent automotive geometry center.
But, are these values okay? Front camber -1º 10' seems a lot

Rear camber and track will fall where they can but the Thrust angle MUST be Zero.
Front  camber -1°10" no more no less.
Front track Toe in 0°03".
Front caster is variable but should be identical side to side... Tweak by moving the subframe if required.

Unless you like your tyres to end up like the last set.

[RallyArde]

Regarding Doctor Gollums personal preference about the front wheels camber, for my experience there can be added little more negative camber to front without having uneven tyre wear. In my daily drive I´ve got 1´56 and in my V6 even 2, only problem that the car is too willing to turn in

A little example about the V6 from the last summer:

https://youtu.be/3YOsoQGfQeo

 

[Doctor Gollum]

Regarding Doctor Gollums personal preference about the front wheels camber, for my experience there can be added little more negative camber to front without having uneven tyre wear. In my daily drive I´ve got 1´56 and in my V6 even 2, only problem that the car is too willing to turn in

A little example about the V6 from the last summer:

https://youtu.be/3YOsoQGfQeo

 

Those aren't my settings, but those that Tony created for the Omega at WIM, And yes, I used them on all my Omegas.

That your car is too willing to turn in tells you that the geometry is wrong. Set up right, the Omega is beautifully balanced. And perhaps more importantly, stable.

[RallyArde]

Regarding Doctor Gollums personal preference about the front wheels camber, for my experience there can be added little more negative camber to front without having uneven tyre wear. In my daily drive I´ve got 1´56 and in my V6 even 2, only problem that the car is too willing to turn in

A little example about the V6 from the last summer:

https://youtu.be/3YOsoQGfQeo

 

Those aren't my settings, but those that Tony created for the Omega at WIM, And yes, I used them on all my Omegas.

That your car is too willing to turn in tells you that the geometry is wrong. Set up right, the Omega is beautifully balanced. And perhaps more importantly, stable.

Making the car more understeery doesn´t make it particulary more stable   When your front wheels lose their connection to tarmac/road, you´re lose the incoming feedback as well.

[Doctor Gollum]

Regarding Doctor Gollums personal preference about the front wheels camber, for my experience there can be added little more negative camber to front without having uneven tyre wear. In my daily drive I´ve got 1´56 and in my V6 even 2, only problem that the car is too willing to turn in

A little example about the V6 from the last summer:

https://youtu.be/3YOsoQGfQeo

 

Those aren't my settings, but those that Tony created for the Omega at WIM, And yes, I used them on all my Omegas.

That your car is too willing to turn in tells you that the geometry is wrong. Set up right, the Omega is beautifully balanced. And perhaps more importantly, stable.

Making the car more understeery doesn´t make it particulary more stable   When your front wheels lose their connection to tarmac/road, you´re lose the incoming feedback as well.

With the fine tuned settings, I never found the Omega to be either understeery or oversteery. Just neutral and balanced, with just enough toe to counter the natural dead spot in the steering box

Making it turn in more easily makes it harder to remove steering lock. That said almost all my driving is on paved roads and not snow or gravel, so perhaps your geometry works better for that.

[omega2018]

Can recommend Feltham Tyres www.felthamtyre.co.uk

[Valentin]

Hi guys, I took the time to illustrate the WIM settings on a standard diagram, applying the values found earlier on this topic. This can be helpful when you visit your favorite wheel alignment center

Everything seems okay except the rear total toe. The separate values are 0°00' +/- 0°45' right? How the total can be 0°20' +/-0°10' ?