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[JamesV6CDX]

I've heard of a few methods for removing the idler incl the 2 hammer trick... but never heat.

If I'm honest I DO think WIM are good - but, unless there was a problem that couldn't be solved more locally it does work out very expensive when you have to add £90 of petrol on top of the alignment costs...

Tracking adjustment cost me £85, and fuel the same again - so £170 for tracking isn't that cheap.. when no other adjustments were needed  :-/

[iggy21uk]

As they say " if you have to ask the price you can't afford it".  :-/

This post  was about the pads being £240.00 ,
not set-up by WIM

[JamesV6CDX]

As they say " if you have to ask the price you can't afford it".  :-/

I didn't ask the price, I just paid it, because it was so well recommended.

I'm just stating that a when charging a flat rate, £85 for simple laser trackrod adjustment isn't the cheapest.

It was only worth it to get the other angles meaured (note - measured, no adjusted),  by the machine.

Don't get me wrong, WIM are good - but I would only visit again if I had a specic problem that looked like it couldn't be solved locally.

[iggy21uk]

As they say " if you have to ask the price you can't afford it".  :-/

I didn't ask the price, I just paid it, because it was so well recommended.

I'm just stating that a when charging a flat rate, £85 for simple laser trackrod adjustment isn't the cheapest.

It was only worth it to get the other angles meaured (note - measured, no adjusted),  by the machine.

Don't get me wrong, WIM are good - but I would only visit again if I had a specic problem that looked like it couldn't be solved locally.

My post was about the price of the pads - not WIM prices

[Jimbob]

my pov.....£170 for wim (about the same for me) plus £60 for local garage to break it up 1st....

= false economy to trust local muppet, who even when given figures, say we didnt understand them, so we set it in the green  

I now go straight to WIM, imho they deserve the business.

also, local place for balancing....
Put wheel on balancer...
apply weights as directed
refit to car at 6,000,000,000 nm torque destroying locking wheel bolt, leaving some poor bastard with a day or 2's drilling to remove the tinker  

wim
put wheel on balancer
apply weight as directed
re-balance
repeat step 2 & 3 until balancer happier
refit wheel manually & with torque wrench.

One of my wheels took 6 goes to get it balanced (none of the 4 are round   )  no wonder it always suffered from vibrating, even after being balanced.

At least I understand a lot more for when I have to use local place, obviously not always practical to go so far, but when it was time for 4 new tyres & geometry, £100 travelling costs aren't so bad.

Tony & myself missed the bottom missing from one of the rear spings, I fitted a new pair and queried the consequence with wim...
Tony said it would be fine, and if not he would replace out his own pocket, now find me somewhere else prepared to offer that level of service!

I just wish there was somewhere local I could trust  

[JamesV6CDX]

I agree with what you say James - but ultimately, the emphasis needs to be on so many outlets being so incompetent, rather than WIM being so good.

As I said earlier, nothing against WIM at all - they ARE good at what they do. I just think that if travelling a long way, you do need a valid need to go there - because POTENTIALLY you could end up paying a lot of cash just to be told all is well, apart from a small adjustment that would cost a quarter of the price elsewhere.

[JamesV6CDX]

just to add having read your post again.. if a wheel is not "round" then no amount of balancing will totally counteract that buckle, even if WIM do it.

TB taught me that one, and he was right  

[Jimbob]

I agree with what you say James - but ultimately, the emphasis needs to be on so many outlets being so incompetent, rather than WIM being so good.

As I said earlier, nothing against WIM at all - they ARE good at what they do. I just think that if travelling a long way, you do need a valid need to go there - because POTENTIALLY you could end up paying a lot of cash just to be told all is well, apart from a small adjustment that would cost a quarter of the price elsewhere.

Here Here!  Should have put more emphasis on the last sentance om my last post.

It is also Tony & Marks view from what I can gather

[Jimbob]

just to add having read your post again.. if a wheel is not "round" then no amount of balancing will totally counteract that buckle, even if WIM do it.

TB taught me that one, and he was right  

Hmmm, wonder if Jim still has those facelift wheels?

[hotel21]

just to add having read your post again.. if a wheel is not "round" then no amount of balancing will totally counteract that buckle, even if WIM do it.

TB taught me that one, and he was right  

Hmmm, wonder if Jim still has those facelift wheels?

no.....

[Jimbob]

just to add having read your post again.. if a wheel is not "round" then no amount of balancing will totally counteract that buckle, even if WIM do it.

TB taught me that one, and he was right  

Hmmm, wonder if Jim still has those facelift wheels?

no.....

bugger, discovered he passes within 2 mile of my house weekly as well!

[Kevin Wood]

refit to car at 6,000,000,000 nm torque destroying locking wheel bolt, leaving some poor bastard with a day or 2's drilling to remove the tinker  Angry

.. or in my case:

refit to car at 6,000,000,000 nm torque destroying locking wheel bolt, leaving some poor bastard with a day or 2's drilling to remove the tinker. Place locking wheelnut key on the boot lid and then distract the customer into going to pay the bill meaning he'll likely drive off and lose the rather thing. Shrug shoulders and say "not my problem, mate" when he comes back looking for it. Mention in passing to the customer that his camber was way out but still within the limits on their cr@p machine, so they couldn't be @rsed to adjust it. Besides, they want to see him back in another 10K to replace the tyres they've just sold because the inner edge will be down to canvas. Oh, and refuse to align anything on a kit car because, having largely MK2 Escort and Sierra suspension bits, adjusting it is clearly going to require rocket science even though the customer knows exactly what angles to set and how.

That's the best service I can get round here. I don't buy tyres every day so I feel WIM deserve my business in future for being at least competent, even if it does involve a bit of a trek (albeit not as far as you guys).

Kevin

[cem_devecioglu]

I loose the count how many balancing shops I left behind 20,21 may be more..

All of their job sucks..

So spend the money for proffesionals..

[Lazydocker]

Taking SWMBO to Birmingham for a conference on Monday and have about 8 hours to kill so have them a call and going down for the WIM treatment! Much needed because the rear canber is visibly out, before you spot the year on the inner edges! Then it'll be a new pair of boots in a couple of weeks

[feeutfo]

I've heard of a few methods for removing the idler incl the 2 hammer trick... but never heat.

If I'm honest I DO think WIM are good - but, unless there was a problem that couldn't be solved more locally it does work out very expensive when you have to add £90 of petrol on top of the alignment costs...

Tracking adjustment cost me £85, and fuel the same again - so £170 for tracking isn't that cheap.. when no other adjustments were needed  :-/

170 quid is a lot for tracking, no doubt about it. But you must take into accounts the law of sod James. If you had not had the car checked you KNOW it would have trashed the tires in a week... you do know that dont you James? It just would have!