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Re: Engines With A Differnce
« Reply #30 on: 24 September 2008, 19:26:45 »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd_ZUgbu-DU&feature=related this one that makes you think jings how they build this in the 60 's when everyone run a bonneville and stuff like it . Amazing engineering really , 20k rpm with pistons the size of thimbells

Motorbike engines dont interest me much.....cant say I am a fan of a screamer
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« Reply #31 on: 24 September 2008, 19:38:09 »
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Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.

I remember seeing one in a truck on Tomorrows World.
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« Reply #32 on: 24 September 2008, 19:39:08 »
Engine wise on the Bikes I like the Honda CDX1000 and Z1300 Kwak with thier 6 Cylinder lumps.  (big cruisers)

Or from a different point of view what about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFGy-A68_vY
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« Reply #33 on: 24 September 2008, 19:43:29 »
has anyone seen or heard of the two rotary diesels in wroughton science museum they are well built engines twin rotor i wonder what they would have pulled like  ;)
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« Reply #34 on: 24 September 2008, 19:44:49 »
Does anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.
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« Reply #35 on: 24 September 2008, 19:50:48 »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFGy-A68_vY saw that thing on one of discory channels the other day they raced it up against a jet trainer over a mile from standing start it beat the plane .....just . Yank comedian Jay Leno's got one he said some guy pulled up by him at a set off lights got to close and it started to melt his bumper  :) :) 1200* /c heat comes from pipe  
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« Reply #36 on: 24 September 2008, 19:52:06 »
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Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.

Didn't the police use them for a bit but gave up because the crims could here them coming and did a runner? I seem to remember my dad telling me this...
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« Reply #37 on: 24 September 2008, 19:58:34 »
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Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.

Didn't the police use them for a bit but gave up because the crims could here them coming and did a runner? I seem to remember my dad telling me this...

No, the gas turbine is vitually silent, apart from a slight whistle, Rover put one into a modified P4, but they didn't go into production.
The railways experimented with them for a while, I saw GT3 at an exhibition in Marylebone many years ago, it had coupling rods, and was designed to look similar to a steam loco.
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« Reply #38 on: 24 September 2008, 20:01:27 »
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Does anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.
Yeah i remember it it had pistons like cans of Spam , double conrods and host technical stuff , but typical Big H well over enginerred and slow as hell compared to the 500 strokers ,didnt take long for them to drop it and revert to a 2 stroke
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« Reply #39 on: 24 September 2008, 20:03:26 »
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If we go by design, we have the square 4, or boxer engine. the 4 pot, , 5 pot inline six, V6, straight 8, V12, V5, V8, V16.  Then W12 and W16.

So up from the boxer, square 4 (that is if I am calling them correcly that is) or flat 4 as I could/will say, I maybe could assume there have been flat 6's, flat 8.s and maybe even flat 12's  Silly me (sleep deprevation (Porche = Flat 6)

But as the type 75 BRM is 2 flat 8's stacked, then what would it be classed as. if that is it does fall under anything other than the "Type 75" named by BRM
hi the only time this engine won a race it was in a lotus  ;D it was built for the 3 l f1 in 1966 at the works it was know as the H16
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« Reply #40 on: 24 September 2008, 20:03:52 »
i vaguely remember some one putting a RR merlin engine in a Roller and taking it down the autobahn in the 70's ,was a kid out in germany then and remember it being mentioned on BFBS but i could be wrong as it was a long time ago
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« Reply #41 on: 24 September 2008, 20:10:37 »
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i vaguely remember some one putting a RR merlin engine in a Roller and taking it down the autobahn in the 70's ,was a kid out in germany then and remember it being mentioned on BFBS but i could be wrong as it was a long time ago

I'm sure your correct, one even raced in vintage/classic events, not too good in the corners, but "nippy" along the straights. :o
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« Reply #42 on: 24 September 2008, 20:52:20 »
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Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.

Didn't the police use them for a bit but gave up because the crims could here them coming and did a runner? I seem to remember my dad telling me this...

No, the gas turbine is vitually silent, apart from a slight whistle, Rover put one into a modified P4, but they didn't go into production.
The railways experimented with them for a while, I saw GT3 at an exhibition in Marylebone many years ago, it had coupling rods, and was designed to look similar to a steam loco.

To start with engine changes have involved the change from push rods and tappets, from the side to the centre of the engine, to cams.


As for Turbines this has a very interesting history; from Parson experimental boat the Turbinia at the Royal Navy Spithead Review in 1897, to the revolutionary battleship HMS Dreadnought in
1907 :y:



To one of the three engines in the Titanic :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

then to the railway steam powered Turbomotive LMS Princess Class
Pacific 6202 of 1936 :y:



with its inner turbine set up:



which was rebuilt as BR 46202 Princess Anne in 1952, due to the turbine experiment with steam railway engines being dropped, before she was wrecked in the terrible Harrow & Wealdstone rail disaster (122 dead) of 8th October 1952, after running just 11443 miles. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Then to, as mentioned the Rover Jet 1 car (converted P4:



before the modern applications in many forms to the present day. :y :y
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« Reply #44 on: 24 September 2008, 21:04:14 »
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i vaguely remember some one putting a RR merlin engine in a Roller and taking it down the autobahn in the 70's ,was a kid out in germany then and remember it being mentioned on BFBS but i could be wrong as it was a long time ago

That was "The Beast" he oridinally had the engine in a capri.  There is a thread about it a month or so back (try a search for john Dodd)






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