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[Lizzie_Zoom]

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11

This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.

Thanks Bedders!  Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

[Mr Skrunts]

The Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMxFE37Sxw

[Marks DTM Calib]

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11

This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.

Thanks Bedders!  Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!

[bedders]

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11

This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.

Thanks Bedders!  Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!

Yes I bet it was.
Isn't it typical of the British to dump an idea, at just the point where it is almost perfected.

[Marks DTM Calib]

The Beast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMxFE37Sxw

25 GALLONS of oil!

[Marks DTM Calib]

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11

This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.

Thanks Bedders!  Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!

Yes I bet it was.
Isn't it typical of the British to dump an idea, at just the point where it is almost perfected.

Lol, far from perfected and far from practical sadly!

[bedders]

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11

This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.

Thanks Bedders!  Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!

Yes I bet it was.
Isn't it typical of the British to dump an idea, at just the point where it is almost perfected.

Lol, far from perfected and far from practical sadly!

Well I don't know the ins & outs of the thing, it was a bit before my time, but the damn gas turbine engine is now the industry standard for warships, aircraft & smaller power stations. With more research at the time, (something we're not noted for) the same may have happened in the rail sector. But then sadly, we may not have had the glorious arrowhead Deltic engine.

[Martin_1962]

Does anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.

NR500 - basically a 32v V8 using 4 pistons

[Martin_1962]

GT3 was too thirsty, needed turntables, had a lot of the same problems as steam locos, yet proved gas turbines could be simple

[mickh]

1963 Rover-BRM gas turbine. The open top car was set to average 93.2 mph. It ran with the number 00 as no official class could be agreed for it. After the rest of the field had left via the traditional start with driver running to the car angled at the side of the track "00" was flagged off seperately . Graham Hill and Richie Ginther covered 2582.96 miles at an average of 107.84 mph.The cars fastest lap was 113.62 mph by Ginther. They would have been 8th.if classified.

 

1965 Rover-BRM gas turbine. Using this updated coupe version of the 1963 car Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart averaged 98.88 mph to finish 10th. overall, third in class and 9th in the Index of Thermal Efficiency. The addition of a heat exchanger helped the car to cover 2,370.7 miles in the 24 hours for the consumption of 176.5 gallons of paraffin - giving 13.52 mpg.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Wot about the Wankel?

Sorry, should have said  "Vot about the Wankel?"

Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/

I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.

Was it further developed with these issue resolved?  Is it installed in any cars in 2008?  Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

[bedders]

GT3 was too thirsty, needed turntables, had a lot of the same problems as steam locos, yet proved gas turbines could be simple

That is my point, with development, it would have had a cab at each end (as a diesel) therefore not requiring a turntable. It didn't have to have a fire lit hours before it was rostered, and i'm sure the fuel consumption could have been addressed in time.
But as a steam fan, i'm glad it went the way it did, although it just sums up the"British way" remember tilting trains, linear motor trains etc etc. We built the worlds railways, but now we import just about everything we use, sadly.  

[bedders]

Wot about the Wankel?

Sorry, should have said  "Vot about the Wankel?"

Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/

I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.

Was it further developed with these issue resolved?  Is it installed in any cars in 2008?  Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

Norton developed a highly creditable rotary engine for motorcycle racing & swept all before them for a period. All that with 3 men in an old shed somewhere, where it took £m's & hundreds of engineers in Japan to do something similar.

[Jay w]

Wot about the Wankel?

Sorry, should have said  "Vot about the Wankel?"

Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/

I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.

Was it further developed with these issue resolved?  Is it installed in any cars in 2008?  Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

Mazda still produce the RX8 which has a rotary engine it in, but its emissions are very high and this could effectively see the end of it, which is a shame as it is now a engine that has it's issues pretty much sorted out.

The original Rotary engine in the RO80 was prone to burning it's rotor tips, this was very expensive and so people ended up putting ford V4 engines is as a replacement, Mazda were still having issues when the RX7 first came out, but during the life of the RX7 they ironed out a lot of the issues...

i believe it's swept capacity is about 1300/1400 CC and puts out approx 190bhp!!

[mickh]

In Britain, in the 1960s, Rolls Royce Motor Car Division at Crewe, Cheshire, pioneered a two-stage Diesel version of the Wankel engine.[2]