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Re: 700 Billion dollars.
« Reply #15 on: 24 September 2008, 23:45:46 »

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Norman Lamont, ex-UK Chancellor, plus others on BBC News 24 now talking in terms of the financial crises facing us all as being "potentially the worst since 1929"!! :o :o :o

USA "bubble" about to burst and will take us all down!! :'( :'(

God help us all! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Presumably Norman Lamont is talking about the Wall Street crash of 1929...........One good thing, it involved a lot of Bankers and very tall buildings :o :o :y
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Re: 700 Billion dollars.
« Reply #16 on: 24 September 2008, 23:45:51 »

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Latest!!!

Norman Lamont, ex-UK Chancellor, plus others on BBC News 24 now talking in terms of the financial crises facing us all as being "potentially the worst since 1929"!! :o :o :o

USA "bubble" about to burst and will take us all down!! :'( :'(

God help us all! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Badger Lamont was in charge of the Exchequer when we had black Wednesday in 1992 I think. Interest rates went up 5% in one day, trying to keep the pound in the ERM mechanism.

Needless to say the Tory Government of the time pulled out of the ERM the very next day :o :o

Perhaps he has forgotten the 1992 fiasco :-* :-*



Well, if that happens then we are stuffed :( :( :(
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« Reply #17 on: 24 September 2008, 23:46:17 »

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The one hope is that the Chinese use their gold reserves to back up the world economy as they now have the largest reserves on the planet! ;)
Actually, the US gold reserve is still 13.5 times the value of the Chinese.

To put the original post in perspective, the US has 8,133.5 tonnes in gold reserve. That is  286,900,769 ounces. At $879.40 per ounce the US has  $252,300,536,358 worth of it. That's 250 TRILLION dollars.

$700 billion is small potatoes by comparison.

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http://www.goldprice.org/gold-price.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_gold_reserves


You are absolutely right bandit :y :y :y; I misunderstood some recent information on the fact that the Chinese are building their gold reserves at a faster rate than any other nation. :-[ :-[ :-[

So, damn, they cannot even bail us out!! ;D ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( :'( ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 24 September 2008, 23:50:21 »

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Latest!!!

Norman Lamont, ex-UK Chancellor, plus others on BBC News 24 now talking in terms of the financial crises facing us all as being "potentially the worst since 1929"!! :o :o :o

USA "bubble" about to burst and will take us all down!! :'( :'(

God help us all! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Badger Lamont was in charge of the Exchequer when we had black Wednesday in 1992 I think. Interest rates went up 5% in one day, trying to keep the pound in the ERM mechanism.

Needless to say the Tory Government of the time pulled out of the ERM the very next day :o :o

Perhaps he has forgotten the 1992 fiasco :-* :-*



Yes Dusty that is right enough :y, but it only involved the UK for that day which was very scarry at the time :o :o........but this crises involves the worlds major economies over a longer time scale I'm afraid! :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #19 on: 24 September 2008, 23:51:07 »

It's all a question of confidence, and I hope that Congress passes the Bill. :y

No time for political point-scoring, IMHO.
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« Reply #20 on: 24 September 2008, 23:55:23 »

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It's all a question of confidence, and I hope that Congress passes the Bill. :y

No time for political point-scoring, IMHO.


That is the problem Nickbat, and the financial markets and banks desparately need this! :y :y
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Re: 700 Billion dollars.
« Reply #21 on: 25 September 2008, 00:12:01 »

I wait to see how this situation will progress over the next day or so.
it will be most interesting............now time for sleep I think..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :y :y
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Re: 700 Billion dollars.
« Reply #22 on: 25 September 2008, 03:04:09 »

I saw something on the TV the other day regarding the Bonuses that the traders earn and the risk's they take get rewarded with huge bonuses.

If proprer guidelines were observed and the greed factor reduced then would either the US or UK be suffering the strife they are at the moment..

http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/latest-business-news/2008/09/22/fsa-has-the-right-to-question-bank-bonuses-51140-21868493/

Also, but cant remeber the details.  There has been a mention of dodgy dealing with the Leemings bank, AIG and 2 other companys.  What gets me is they find these things out after the event, of all the money invested and wasted, and technology the way it is then why do we end up in these situations.
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« Reply #23 on: 25 September 2008, 09:34:37 »

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It's all a question of confidence, and I hope that Congress passes the Bill. :y

No time for political point-scoring, IMHO.

Agreed..This hole must be filled asap.. reluctantly or not..
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« Reply #24 on: 25 September 2008, 09:42:37 »

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It's all a question of confidence, and I hope that Congress passes the Bill. :y

No time for political point-scoring, IMHO.

Agreed..This hole must be filled asap.. reluctantly or not..

I say make 'em sweat a little ;D

The problem is, the way these traders work, they have probably committed the money already on the assumption that it's coming, so if it doesn' t they'll have dug themselves an even deeper hole. >:(

I guess congress were scared of making a knee-jerk reaction until the expert on knee-jerk politics, Gordon Brown, arrived to advise. :-X

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« Reply #25 on: 25 September 2008, 09:50:11 »

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It's all a question of confidence, and I hope that Congress passes the Bill. :y

No time for political point-scoring, IMHO.

Agreed..This hole must be filled asap.. reluctantly or not..

I say make 'em sweat a little ;D

The problem is, the way these traders work, they have probably committed the money already on the assumption that it's coming, so if it doesn' t they'll have dug themselves an even deeper hole. >:(

I guess congress were scared of making a knee-jerk reaction until the expert on knee-jerk politics, Gordon Brown, arrived to advise. :-X

Kevin

its like a virus if not stopped will spread wider and will be necessary more $ and £ to close the gap..Even effect here.. :(
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« Reply #26 on: 25 September 2008, 11:39:32 »

The private sector, is fond of using the mantra, "Let the market decide", in other words let the chips fall where they may.

My understanding is that the Government has guaranteed £35,000 in the event of a bank failing.............that probably takes in more than 95% of the investors/depositers in Britain.

So maybe we should let them fail. I have no sympathy for the banks, and they do not have any for the general population. And besides what other private institution would asked to be bailed out by the British tax payer. (shades of british Leyland in the 1970's here. I don't remember the banks thinking that was a good idea)

Maybe a new order would rise Phoenix like from the ashes. That is better regulated, (although not over regulated)......perhaps that would be for the best. :y :y :y
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« Reply #27 on: 25 September 2008, 11:58:03 »

When some of the banks fail,

credit interest rates will rise up automatically..And as they give

important sums of credit to food sector, you will eat food more

expensive..And this the best scenario ,let the worst :-/
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« Reply #28 on: 25 September 2008, 13:18:49 »

The money being put into the banking system is a drop in the ocean in comparison to the tax revenue they provide to the exchequer and the economy as a whole.
The banking industry accounts for something like a third of our economy.
It is (or was until very recently)one of the few (if not the only) remaining industries in which we are at least as good as the rest of the world.
moaning about the money they earn is the politics of envy,the British disease. If its as easy to make a fortune as people think,why dont these people go and do it.
You will need to be prepared to be working at home at near midnight,to deal with people in the U.S. markets and then get out of bed before 6.a.m. to get back to the pressure cooker that is the office.
I have heard of 3 traders in their 20,s in the last couple of years who have jumped off the top of those tall buildings,primarily because the pressure was too much to bear. you dont hear of mechanics doing that after a bad day changing a gearbox do you. ::) ::) ;)
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« Reply #29 on: 25 September 2008, 13:42:13 »

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The private sector, is fond of using the mantra, "Let the market decide", in other words let the chips fall where they may.

My understanding is that the Government has guaranteed £35,000 in the event of a bank failing.............that probably takes in more than 95% of the investors/depositers in Britain.

So maybe we should let them fail. I have no sympathy for the banks, and they do not have any for the general population. And besides what other private institution would asked to be bailed out by the British tax payer. (shades of british Leyland in the 1970's here. I don't remember the banks thinking that was a good idea)

Maybe a new order would rise Phoenix like from the ashes. That is better regulated, (although not over regulated)......perhaps that would be for the best. :y :y :y

Is that figure correct Optimist? :-/ :-/  I have a feeling it is far more than that. :y

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