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Kevin Wood

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Re: Solar panels? So green....er, maybe not
« Reply #15 on: 29 October 2008, 15:03:26 »

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I don't think it matters a great deal. The main point is one of irony, in that the AGW crowd constantly go on about humans contributing to the 0.038% CO2 in the atmosphere (and only about a fifth is man-made) and how it is calamitous. They then go on scrapping coal and nuclear and relying on solar and wind. This point shows that solar panels aren't that green, athough the amount of NF3 is prety miniscule, it is very potent. Personally I'd rather have CO2 anyday, especially as plants love it.

The point being that, for any "green" invention, the environmental downsides such as, in this case, NF3 genration are always brushed under the carpet in the knee-jerk towards deploying them everywhere. They'd carry a lot more credibility if they were honest about the big picture of using these technologies instead and pointed out that (hopefully) the advantages outweigh the disadvantages rather than - there's an advantage!, so let's all jump on the bandwagon. >:(

A community centre I regularly visit has a photovoltaic installation on the roof and, inside, a huge digital display showing how many units of zero-carbon electricity they have generated. The face of the display is quite hot to the touch, indicating it consumes a more than negligible amount of power, and is powered-up 24 hours a day. It can be seen gleaming away when I pass the locked building at night. Powered largely by fossil fuels, of course.  >:(

I keep meaning to estimate how much of the output of those panels isn't wasted by that stupid display. Of course, they'd argue that it is energy well sepnt in "educating" the unwashed consumers who look at it. Not that most would have a clue what it's saying. >:(

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Re: Solar panels? So green....er, maybe not
« Reply #16 on: 29 October 2008, 15:06:51 »

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I don't give a darn about CO2 emmisions, I do care about using up fossil fuels.

As to CO2

REFORESTATION!


Quite right -- give the earth it's lungs back !!!!
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Re: Solar panels? So green....er, maybe not
« Reply #17 on: 29 October 2008, 15:23:50 »

I am not american I am British please fix the profanity filter.

I do not darn socks and I hate the term darn when I mean d@mn!
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Re: Solar panels? So green....er, maybe not
« Reply #18 on: 29 October 2008, 16:24:43 »

I am sure that an alternative could be found if hard pressed.  As I understand it is a product used to clean the curcuits and not an actual by-product of their manufacture?

I am an avid sailor and my long term plans include sailing around the world which means using wind and solar power on long passages to keep the engine use down.  I had no idea that solar cells manufacture was so 'dirty' and it would make me think twice about fitting a boat out with them.  I wonder what the sailing community would make of this?
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