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[feeutfo]

dont agree myself obviously,never been one to stick my head in the sand but 2 to 1 then fair enough. Not having all the facts has never been an issue before. As you wish, deleted...

[razzo]

Not a subject suitable for this forum, too emotional, too many comments without the facts, do not go there, oofers have rightly not posted on this subject. In drink you have, suggest you pull it.

don't see why this subject should not be discussed here, its on the news & in the papers or are current affairs off limits.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I don't accept that this subject should be taboo.
It is all over the papers and on the news every night.
In my opinion it is a subject that can be discussed ....the same as any other.
I feel sure that there is strong opinion on this sad incident.....in one way or another.

[webby23]

Whilst it is obviously a very tragic event, i too was surprised at the earlier  'we wont talk about that on here'  type reply to the thread starter, as mentioned, its out in the news and there are facts to the case now too.....

May his little poor soul rest in peace

[JamesV6CDX]

I heard this in the radio last night and just read the BBC news atricle.

I didn't see the original post so I'm not sure what was said or how it came across - therefore I can't form an opinion of whether I think Mike was right or wrong in wanting the thread pulled.

What I can say, is that, given this is clearly in all national news, there is no problem with us all offering condolences for a very sad and tragic loss.

RIP

[Jay w]

with the exception of this thread i have generally not read about this.....

Not because i don't want to, more because i don't want to know how this little life was ended.

I'm not trying to put my head in the sand, its just that it is so abhorrent i cant bear thinking about it

[feeutfo]

with the exception of this thread i have generally not read about this.....

Not because i don't want to, more because i don't want to know how this little life was ended.

I'm not trying to put my head in the sand, its just that it is so abhorrent i cant bear thinking about it

My original point was roughly, i could not find the words ? What can you say... really what can you say. I was asking along the lines, can anyone else find the words, as mine fail me...

The point really is, that something MUST be said/done. Maybe not here, but somewhere, and not just in the first instance but in the second as well. 60 visits from social services...really really really is beyond all else. Mike is right, we dont have the  facts, but we do have it on the news. I wonder if you dont want to think about the subject, ok fair enough, but maybe dont come in for a chat about it perhaps?
 I had 2 pints and came home with a burger and chips last night, put the news on and could not eat it after seeing this story. Anger, upset, etc. For the first time in my life i had nothing... So i suppose, Mike and Skruntie have a point, nothing to say, then say nothing? Sorry i dont agree on this one. I just dont know how to/cant express it... Maybe someone can? Without putting your self in the mad house...

 

[Dusty]

Baby P is a  very sad story.

As is the case of the 21 year old mother who killed her two children yesterday.

She has since been sectioned under the mental health act.
This woman clearly needs help and not punishment in my opinion.

I feel that we should feel free to discuss both of these cases on this forum......tragic though they are.  :-/ :-/

[MikeDundee]

It's totally breaked up, unfortunately ths is the world we live in where there are people in communities that do these sort of thing to young children ..........personally the government should bring back the death penalty for sad f*cks that can take lifes from young kids.

I have no time for people of that sort, including paedophiles

And yes that does mean Gary Glitter aswell

[Richie London]

It's totally breaked up, unfortunately ths is the world we live in where there are people in communities that do these sort of thing to young children ..........personally the government should bring back the death penalty for sad f*cks that can take lifes from young kids.

I have no time for people of that sort, including paedophiles

And yes that does mean Gary Glitter aswell

i agree, i think some cases go beyond the penalty of imprisonment. what annoys me is the do gooders always protecting them and making excuses for them

[Welung666]

I've been too busy with work etc. to follow this story, just bits that SWMBO has told me. We brought a paper in Asda today and I've just sat and read it. I am utterly heartbroken for this poor child! I'm glad that he is now out of pain but I can't even imagine how horrific it was for him throughout. I work with children up to the age of 11 and quite a few are on the 'at risk' register but words just fail me in this case. I think the social services and the parents/lodgers have a lot to answer for!!!

[webby23]

I think the social services and the parents/lodgers have a lot to answer for!!!

That gets the UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD from me........

[Welung666]

I think the social services and the parents/lodgers have a lot to answer for!!!

That gets the UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD from me........

I was holding back

[kris9128]

let it go people. none of us were there so none of know the facts. all the finger pionting and name calling wont solve anything.

[Vamps]

with the exception of this thread i have generally not read about this.....

Not because i don't want to, more because i don't want to know how this little life was ended.

I'm not trying to put my head in the sand, its just that it is so abhorrent i cant bear thinking about it

My original point was roughly, i could not find the words ? What can you say... really what can you say. I was asking along the lines, can anyone else find the words, as mine fail me...

The point really is, that something MUST be said/done. Maybe not here, but somewhere, and not just in the first instance but in the second as well. 60 visits from social services...really really really is beyond all else. Mike is right, we dont have the  facts, but we do have it on the news. I wonder if you dont want to think about the subject, ok fair enough, but maybe dont come in for a chat about it perhaps?
 I had 2 pints and came home with a burger and chips last night, put the news on and could not eat it after seeing this story. Anger, upset, etc. For the first time in my life i had nothing... So i suppose, Mike and Skruntie have a point, nothing to say, then say nothing? Sorry i dont agree on this one. I just dont know how to/cant express it... Maybe someone can? Without putting your self in the mad house...

 

Is exactly my point in posting without knowing the facts